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Law School Rankings for 2024

Top law school rankings for 2024.

One way to compare schools is the USNews law school rankings of top law schools (but not the only way).

Below you will find the law school rankings for 2022 as well as the GPA and LSAT scores of accepted students. Click on a school name for in-depth information on that school. If you scroll to the bottom you can find Top-5s on different metrics. We hope with these other rankings you will start to look beyond USNews to determine the top law schools for you.

Rankings for other years: 2021 (published 2020), 2022 (published 2021), 2023 (published 2022), 2024 (published 2023), 2024 (published 2024).

LSAT GPA
Rank Name 25th 50th 75th 25th 50th 75th Acceptance
1 Yale University 171 174 177 3.9 3.9 4.0 4.1%
2 Stanford University 170 172 175 3.81 3.91 3.99 6.3%
3 University of Chicago 169 172 175 3.82 3.91 3.98 11.9%
4 Columbia University 172 174 176 3.75 3.84 3.92 11.4%
4 Harvard University 170 174 176 3.82 3.92 3.98 6.9%
6 University of Pennsylvania 167 171 173 3.56 3.9 3.96 9.4%
7 New York University 170 172 174 3.73 3.86 3.93 14.5%
8 University of Virginia 166 171 173 3.64 3.91 3.97 9.7%
11 Duke University 167 170 172 3.7 3.82 3.91 14.4%
12 Cornell University 169 171 173 3.74 3.86 3.95 15.6%
13 Northwestern University 167 171 172 3.6 3.86 3.93 13.9%
14 Georgetown University 167 171 173 3.66 3.85 3.94 12.9%
16 Washington University in St. Louis 163 170 171 3.56 3.93 3.99 15.9%
17 Boston University 165 169 171 3.53 3.77 3.87 18.3%
17 Vanderbilt University 165 169 170 3.7 3.89 3.95 14.3%
20 University of Southern California 165 168 169 3.6 3.82 3.9 13.0%
21 University of Florida (Levin) 161 167 169 3.65 3.86 3.94 17.4%
21 University of Minnesota 161 166 167 3.55 3.8 3.89 27.6%
23 Brigham Young University 163 167 169 3.51 3.85 3.93 39.9%
25 George Washington University 162 167 168 3.55 3.83 3.91 21.6%
25 University of Alabama 160 165 166 3.58 3.94 4.0 31.0%
28 University of Iowa 160 163 164 3.5 3.69 3.83 42.8%
29 University of Georgia 160 166 167 3.5 3.82 3.93 18.6%
30 Arizona State University 158 166 167 3.36 3.85 3.94 20.6%
30 George Mason University 158 164 166 3.41 3.81 3.88 27.1%
30 Ohio State University 160 163 165 3.6 3.79 3.9 32.1%
30 William & Mary Law School 161 164 165 3.6 3.8 3.9 30.1%
35 Washington and Lee University 159 164 166 3.41 3.61 3.78 31.4%
37 Boston College 161 165 167 3.52 3.69 3.81 23.5%
37 Fordham University 164 166 168 3.51 3.7 3.8 17.7%
37 University of Utah 159 163 165 3.62 3.82 3.91 25.5%
37 Wake Forest University 160 163 164 3.44 3.68 3.8 31.3%
45 University of Arizona 158 163 164 3.37 3.66 3.81 24.7%
46 Texas A&M University 156 163 165 3.4 3.84 3.94 18.4%
47 Florida State University 158 163 164 3.55 3.82 3.9 22.5%
47 University of Maryland 156 161 163 3.42 3.7 3.8 32.8%
49 University of Washington 160 164 167 3.52 3.67 3.79 25.6%
51 University of California (Hastings) 157 160 162 3.3 3.52 3.69 28.0%
52 Pepperdine University 159 164 166 3.48 3.8 3.91 25.0%
103 University of Montana 152 156 160 3.18 3.5 3.73 40.9%
116 Seattle University 152 157 159 3.08 3.36 3.56 51.9%
52 University of Richmond 157 162 163 3.46 3.7 3.79 36.3%
105 DePaul University 152 156 157 3.25 3.57 3.73 44.3%
118 Chapman University 154 160 162 3.13 3.6 3.71 28.3%
127 University of St. Thomas (Minnesota) 151 155 159 3.26 3.48 3.72 63.6%
52 Yeshiva University (Cardozo) 160 164 166 3.53 3.74 3.86 30.8%
118 Hofstra University 152 156 158 3.16 3.48 3.69 42.3%
55 Tulane University 157 161 164 3.4 3.6 3.74 40.1%
118 University of Tulsa 151 154 156 3.07 3.38 3.7 57.8%
56 Villanova University 157 162 164 3.51 3.7 3.83 17.8%
84 St. John's University 155 162 164 3.39 3.62 3.79 35.6%
94 University of Louisville 153 156 159 3.3 3.56 3.77 51.5%
139 University of Detroit Mercy 150 154 158 3.09 3.32 3.55 52.6%
147-193 Campbell University 151 154 158 3.14 3.4 3.64 54.6%
147-193 Mitchell Hamline 150 153 158 2.91 3.29 3.61 62.4%
58 Baylor University 158 162 163 3.35 3.64 3.78 34.3%
84 University of South Carolina 156 158 160 3.28 3.53 3.72 38.3%
98 Brooklyn Law School 157 159 161 3.31 3.5 3.66 39.6%
142 Pace University 150 152 154 3.11 3.4 3.66 48.1%
147-193 Capital University 148 151 155 3.03 3.3 3.6 75.6%
58 Wayne State University 157 161 164 3.41 3.75 3.87 32.9%
63 Temple University 160 163 166 3.4 3.6 3.74 32.8%
64 University of San Diego 157 161 163 3.39 3.7 3.81 31.0%
78 Georgia State University 157 160 162 3.35 3.55 3.76 27.0%
133 University of South Dakota 148 150 153 3.06 3.44 3.74 69.0%
147-193 Appalachian School of Law 146 147 152 2.96 3.27 3.57 42.2%
147-193 Golden Gate University 148 151 154 2.85 3.13 3.42 51.6%
147-193 Roger Williams University 148 150 155 2.89 3.17 3.52 63.0%
67 Loyola Marymount University—Los Angeles 158 161 163 3.43 3.64 3.78 29.4%
67 University of Kansas 154 158 162 3.31 3.69 3.89 53.9%
73 American University 157 161 163 3.39 3.57 3.71 27.9%
78 University of Denver 157 160 162 3.4 3.6 3.8 37.7%
94 Illinois Institute of Technology (Kent) 152 159 162 3.31 3.56 3.74 53.1%
94 Catholic University Of America 155 158 160 3.33 3.5 3.67 39.7%
139 Creighton University 150 153 157 3.04 3.39 3.74 66.4%
147-193 Barry University 147 149 153 2.83 3.15 3.47 57.3%
147-193 Southern University 144 146 148 2.72 3.03 3.39 53.9%
73 Loyola University—Chicago 157 159 161 3.2 3.46 3.64 40.0%
73 Northeastern University 158 162 164 3.45 3.66 3.79 24.4%
122 Suffolk University 150 154 158 3.25 3.48 3.69 56.7%
73 University of Miami 157 160 163 3.42 3.63 3.77 30.1%
78 Case Western Reserve University 156 160 162 3.42 3.61 3.83 46.6%
111 University of Mississippi 153 156 159 3.16 3.56 3.8 37.3%
78 University of Pittsburgh 158 160 162 3.22 3.51 3.75 36.6%
129 New York Law School 152 155 157 3.25 3.49 3.69 48.5%
139 Samford University 151 154 157 3.24 3.54 3.76 60.7%
147-193 California Western School Of Law 151 153 156 2.97 3.26 3.48 56.6%
88 Lewis And Clark College 159 162 164 3.24 3.54 3.78 45.2%
88 University of Cincinnati 156 158 161 3.48 3.7 3.85 46.6%
88 University of Oklahoma 156 158 160 3.29 3.59 3.81 50.1%
98 Saint Louis University 153 156 160 3.21 3.5 3.73 60.4%
122 University of Dayton 150 153 155 3.18 3.53 3.72 25.9%
133 Loyola University—New Orleans 150 153 157 3.1 3.35 3.63 58.5%
142 University of Idaho 149 153 157 2.87 3.26 3.62 58.9%
142 University of Memphis 152 154 157 3.03 3.36 3.65 48.5%
147-193 Elon University 149 152 154 2.96 3.31 3.57 43.7%
147-193 Jones School of Law 147 150 154 2.88 3.23 3.5 44.5%
147-193 Oklahoma City University 146 149 152 3.06 3.3 3.59 59.3%
98 Florida International University 158 160 162 3.4 3.69 3.84 20.6%
142 Regent University 153 156 159 3.38 3.64 3.85 39.7%
147-193 Charleston School Of Law 148 151 154 3.0 3.32 3.6 60.0%
105 Marquette University 152 155 157 3.38 3.56 3.72 42.7%
116 Gonzaga University 152 154 157 3.23 3.51 3.72 55.3%
118 West Virginia University 152 154 157 3.29 3.56 3.88 59.2%
122 Albany Law School Of Union University 152 154 157 3.21 3.42 3.69 50.4%
129 University of Wyoming 151 154 157 3.1 3.32 3.53 51.5%
147-193 St. Mary's University 150 153 155 2.97 3.36 3.59 48.5%
129 Willamette University 151 154 157 2.94 3.32 3.61 61.6%
147-193 North Carolina Central University 145 147 153 2.99 3.27 3.53 37.9%
147-193 St. Thomas University (Florida) 150 152 155 2.91 3.32 3.51 48.0%
133 Belmont University 153 158 161 3.44 3.71 3.86 40.8%
147-193 Northern Illinois University 146 148 152 3.0 3.2 3.5 62.4%
133 Santa Clara University 155 157 160 3.18 3.42 3.62 53.3%
133 University of the Pacific (Mcgeorge) 152 155 157 3.03 3.44 3.66 55.7%
142 Vermont Law School 150 154 159 3.08 3.4 3.65 65.8%
147-193 Atlanta's John Marshall Law School 149 151 153 2.81 3.13 3.38 43.1%
147-193 Florida A&M University 147 149 152 3.15 3.42 3.64 37.0%
147-193 Liberty University 150 153 157 3.17 3.48 3.78 57.8%
147-193 Quinnipiac University 150 152 156 3.19 3.46 3.74 58.6%
147-193 Mississippi College 147 150 153 2.84 3.24 3.58 62.0%
147-193 South Texas College Of Law—Houston 152 154 156 2.94 3.22 3.46 42.2%
147-193 Southwestern Law School 152 154 157 3.03 3.31 3.57 46.8%
147-193 University of Akron 151 153 156 3.05 3.39 3.59 59.6%
9 University of California—Berkeley 165 169 171 3.74 3.83 3.92 13.7%
10 University of Michigan 166 171 172 3.61 3.84 3.93 10.6%
15 University of California—Los Angeles 166 170 171 3.57 3.82 3.92 15.4%
17 University of Texas at Austin 167 169 170 3.67 3.8 3.9 15.2%
23 University of North Carolina 162 164 166 3.6 3.73 3.83 15.5%
35 University of Illinois—Urbana Champaign 162 164 166 3.44 3.66 3.82 29.8%
37 University of California—Davis 160 165 167 3.44 3.7 3.82 28.3%
37 University of California—Irvine 163 167 168 3.5 3.69 3.8 16.8%
43 Indiana University - Bloomington 161 164 166 3.5 3.77 3.9 36.6%
43 University of Wisconsin 158 164 165 3.34 3.65 3.81 36.2%
56 University of Tennessee 157 160 162 3.47 3.67 3.81 28.9%
58 Southern Methodist University 158 163 164 3.43 3.76 3.89 33.4%
58 University of Houston 159 161 163 3.37 3.64 3.76 30.8%
64 Pennsylvania State - Penn State Law 155 162 163 3.4 3.76 3.9 35.6%
67 University of Nevada—Las Vegas 156 160 163 3.34 3.7 3.85 31.7%
86 University of Arkansas, Fayetteville 152 156 159 3.22 3.59 3.8 47.8%
91 University of Hawaii 153 156 159 3.28 3.54 3.76 32.7%
98 Indiana University - Indianapolis 152 155 159 3.28 3.56 3.77 58.6%
105 Louisiana State University 154 156 159 3.28 3.56 3.78 45.7%
114 University of Missouri—Kansas City 152 154 157 3.21 3.48 3.74 54.2%
147-193 New England Law | Boston 149 154 157 2.92 3.28 3.58 66.1%
147-193 Northern Kentucky University 151 153 156 2.85 3.37 3.63 65.2%
147-193 Nova Southeastern University 151 153 155 2.93 3.26 3.52 48.9%
147-193 Ohio Northern University 148 150 153 3.14 3.43 3.8 47.3%
147-193 Southern Illinois University—Carbondale 147 149 151 2.94 3.36 3.62 59.2%
147-193 Texas Southern University 149 151 153 2.81 3.32 3.6 28.2%
147-193 Touro College 148 150 152 2.89 3.15 3.44 52.0%
147-193 University of Arkansas, Little Rock 149 152 155 3.02 3.43 3.63 59.6%
147-193 University of Illinois—Chicago 149 152 155 3.0 3.3 3.5 56.7%
147-193 University of Massachusetts Dartmouth 148 150 153 2.99 3.36 3.62 64.5%
147-193 University of North Dakota 147 150 153 3.12 3.39 3.68 54.7%
147-193 University of San Francisco 153 155 157 3.01 3.33 3.6 46.9%
147-193 University of the District of Columbia 147 149 153 2.76 3.08 3.34 42.2%
147-193 University of Toledo 149 152 155 3.06 3.42 3.65 67.3%
147-193 Western Michigan University (Cooley) 146 148 151 2.61 2.99 3.28 49.0%
147-193 Western New England University 147 150 154 3.12 3.47 3.7 57.4%
147-193 Western State College Of Law 148 150 153 2.86 3.11 3.43 46.0%
147-193 Widener University—Delaware 148 150 152 2.9 3.2 3.5 62.1%
64 University of Connecticut 156 159 161 3.28 3.54 3.71 29.3%
58 Pennsylvania State - Dickinson Law 157 161 163 3.22 3.54 3.73 39.6%
30 Emory University 160 167 169 3.47 3.8 3.9 27.3%
147-193 (Part-time) Widener University—Pennsylvania (Commonwealth) 146 148 152 2.87 3.2 3.5 58.9%
67 University of Oregon 156 159 161 3.33 3.54 3.7 48.8%
147-193 Ave Maria School Of Law 148 151 155 2.84 3.17 3.57 48.9%
133 CUNY 151 155 160 3.19 3.46 3.66 29.6%
91 University of New Mexico 152 156 159 3.37 3.61 3.83 41.2%
114 University of Maine 154 158 161 3.24 3.57 3.79 52.3%
98 Howard University 152 154 158 3.24 3.49 3.69 24.5%
86 Rutgers University 155 157 160 3.09 3.39 3.63 41.6%
91 Michigan State University 153 156 158 3.31 3.59 3.74 48.1%
67 University of Missouri 154 159 161 3.52 3.69 3.86 53.0%
73 Seton Hall University 157 160 162 3.31 3.58 3.75 45.7%
78 University of Nebraska 155 158 161 3.38 3.64 3.95 62.6%
111 Stetson University 154 157 159 3.17 3.45 3.65 41.8%
105 Washburn University 151 155 159 3.15 3.53 3.8 49.0%
25 University of Notre Dame 162 168 170 3.52 3.77 3.85 17.5%
103 Syracuse University 154 157 160 3.19 3.51 3.72 32.7%
122 University of Baltimore 151 154 157 2.97 3.34 3.56 54.2%
94 University of Buffalo—SUNY 153 156 159 3.35 3.58 3.78 38.8%
105 University of New Hampshire 153 158 160 3.15 3.5 3.69 49.7%
127 Cleveland State University 152 155 157 3.12 3.48 3.7 44.3%
67 University of Kentucky 155 157 160 3.36 3.62 3.84 45.7%
49 University of Colorado—Boulder 160 164 166 3.38 3.61 3.77 27.7%
78 Drexel University 152 158 160 3.36 3.59 3.73 32.0%
111 Drake University 152 155 158 3.21 3.5 3.75 66.5%
122 Mercer University 154 156 158 3.17 3.51 3.7 36.0%
129 Duquesne University 153 155 158 3.08 3.43 3.72 53.4%
105 Texas Tech University 154 157 158 3.27 3.56 3.74 34.3%
147-193 University of North Texas at Dallas 149 151 155 2.89 3.14 3.52 36.5%
A rank of 147-193 means that the school is in the bottom tier as ranked by U.S. News & World Report.
* The data in this table is user-reported and may be inaccurate.
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Above The Law Rankings for 2023

ATL rankings are (arguably) the second most popular ranking system to determine the best law schools. ATL law school rankings are usually drastically different from USNews rankings of best law schools.

The main reason that Above the Law (ATL) Rankings are different from USNews Rankings is because ATL focuses on employment outcomes and school cost above all other things. US News looks at things like student:faculty ratio and peer review score which ATL doesn’t take into account. The underlying rule that ATL believes is that what happens after law school is the thing that matters most. Not how many professors the school can afford, or what law school administrators think.

Rank Prev Change Name
1 3 +2 Duke University
2 2 +0 University of Virginia
4 1 -3 University of Chicago
5 15 +10 Vanderbilt University
6 9 +3 Washington University in St. Louis
7 5 -2 University of Michigan
8 13 +5 Columbia University
9 12 +3 Northwestern University
10 7 -3 University of Pennsylvania
11 14 +3 University of Texas at Austin
12 11 -1 University of California—Berkeley
13 22 +9 University of Georgia
14 21 +7 University of Notre Dame
15 6 -9 Yale University
16 10 -6 Harvard University
17 16 -1 New York University
18 27 +9 University of Southern California
19 25 +6 University of Illinois—Urbana Champaign
20 24 +4 University of North Carolina
21 30 +9 Wake Forest University
22 36 +14 Brigham Young University
23 18 -5 University of California—Los Angeles
24 23 -1 University of Florida (Levin)
25 32 +7 Boston College
26 28 +2 Washington and Lee University
27 8 -19 Stanford University
30 44 +14 University of Kansas
31 41 +10 University of Minnesota
32 20 -12 Georgetown University
33 19 -14 University of Iowa
34 29 -5 Boston University
35 35 +0 Villanova University
36 34 -2 University of Utah
37 33 -4 University of Kentucky
38 26 -12 Ohio State University
39 17 -22 University of Alabama
42 50 +8 University of Missouri
43 38 -5 Wayne State University
44 47 +3 University of Houston
45 40 -5 Florida State University
46 46 +0 Texas A&M University
48 39 -9 University of Tennessee
49 42 -7 University of Wisconsin
50 37 -13 Drexel University

Summary

The U.S. News & World Report (USNWR) law school rankings for 2024 showcase a highly competitive landscape among top-tier institutions. Stanford University and Yale University share the first spot, followed by the University of Chicago. Tied in fourth place are Duke University, Harvard University, University of Pennsylvania, and University of Virginia. The USNews rankings consider a multitude of factors including (but not limited to) the 25th, 50th, and 75th percentile LSAT scores and GPAs of first year enrolled students, as well as the acceptance rate, in an effort to paint a comprehensive picture of each school's selectivity and the quality of its students.

Stanford and Yale Law Schools both have 25th percentile LSAT scores of 171 or above and 75th percentile scores reaching 175 and 177 respectively, indicating a highly accomplished student body. Yale, however, has a slightly lower acceptance rate at 5.6%, reflecting a higher level of competitiveness for admission. Both schools also boast strong GPA percentiles, with 75th percentile GPAs hitting 3.99 for Stanford and 4.0 for Yale, illustrating the high academic achievements of their students.

In the fourth spot, UPenn, Duke, Harvard, and UVA exhibit a diverse range of LSAT and GPA percentiles, which for many feel much more achievable (especially the 75th percentile, Harvard excluded) than Stanford or Yale. Duke, UChicago, and UVA stand out due to their acceptance rates above 10%. Interestingly, in the past high acceptance rates have led to increased applicants which drive down acceptance rates leading to much of the T-6 floating around a 5-10% acceptance rate, and the rest of T-14 around 10-15%.

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jb2028
18:36
By comparison, Tennessee has 2% of the class fail out (https://law.utk.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/2023-ABA-Standard-509-Information-Report.pdf), 16% fail the bar even in a bad year (https://law.utk.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/UTK-College-of-Law-Bar-Passage-20241.pdf), and just 1 in 10 did not find legal or JD advantage jobs (https://law.utk.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/EQ-Summary-Report-Class-of-2023.pdf)
jb2028
18:38
Depending on your stats the answer could also be option C, reapply next year for >50% at Tennessee/substantial $ at other good schools (most spend their scholarship budget by June 30th), but that depends on your situation and goals
jb2028
18:39
Standardized info on curves is harder to find, but this says Elon curves to a 2.67 which is downright predatory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_school_GPA_curves
DisillusionedHomelessWalnut
18:41
appreciate it. i am well removed from undergrad and am pushing through for this year. have significant business experience and want to do corporate law and/or property. not educated on the curve and how that works, will look into that
DisillusionedHomelessWalnut
18:42
questioning whether i go to school for free at a lesser school or pay some out of pocket at a better name for the same degree at end of the day, the numbers don't lie
jb2028
18:54
@DisillusionedHomelessWalnut: The way the curve works is a below-median student at Tennessee (curves to a 3.1, so B/B+) can end up with a better GPA than an above-average student at Elon (curves to a 2.67/B-minus), so the student from Tennessee will have a better transcript *and* get better jobs on average than someone with the same class rank at Elon
jb2028
18:56
Your real alarm bell is Elon's curve (linked here, p. 70 https://eloncdn.blob.core.windows.net/eu3/sites/996/2019/07/2017-2018_Academic_Catalog-and-Student_Handbook.pdf) *requires* profs to give 20% of first-year students a C-minus or worse, when the school's bar for "satisfactory academic progress" is a C+ average
DisillusionedHomelessWalnut
18:59
ooooffff. thanks. i mean, full ride is cool and all, but damn
jb2028
18:59
The only scenario where a school does something like that (curve to a 2.67, dismiss students below 2.25) is when they're admitting a lot of students who may not pass the bar, then flunking people out mercilessly so the school can keep its accreditation (ABA requires 75% of grads to pass the bar within two years, can't fail the bar if the school doesn't let you graduate)
DisillusionedHomelessWalnut
18:59
the dean told me "no students had their scholarships reduced in the past three years, and to my recollection only one scholarship in 19 years has been reduced when a student was in good standing"
DisillusionedHomelessWalnut
19:01
yeah, i get that and appreciate you validating that point. i like to think it really wouldn't apply to me and assume it happens due to the lower standards of admissions they utilize, but is it (full ride) worth the risk? that's the fly in the ointment
DisillusionedHomelessWalnut
19:02
just trying to weigh all angles, seems like just biting the bullet and paying the modest amount to UTK is a smarter decision
DisillusionedHomelessWalnut
19:04
end of cycle is for the birds, but i'm playing the hand i was dealt :)
jb2028
19:06
In general you are going to be better off at a school that wants its students to succeed. UTK seems to fit the description - they are not in any danger of losing their accreditation, don't need to force people out. Elon very much does not, if their bar passage drops 2% they'll be in violation of ABA requirements so they won't give students any leway
jb2028
19:06
*leeway
DisillusionedHomelessWalnut
19:08
i appreciate your insight, friend
manifestmoreadmissions
19:11
im too lazy to provide the same level of detail as JB but I agree UTK seems like a better bet to actually achieve your career goals and set yourself up for success. I would understand being conflicted if it were like UTK vs Belmont or a lower ranked school that isn't considered predatory but because it's Elon that makes it more clear to me
DisillusionedHomelessWalnut
19:15
thank you
DisillusionedHomelessWalnut
19:17
the counterpoint bouncing around my head is basically "if i'm worth a damn, as i think i am, i'll be just fine no matter what the curve is" but you folks are nudging me in the direction of logic and common sense
manifestmoreadmissions
19:18
plenty of the people who fall behind are worth a damn it's just that some schools are basically set up to screw people over
DisillusionedHomelessWalnut
19:19
yeah. fall behind as in....miss homework? can't keep up with readings? something else?
DisillusionedHomelessWalnut
19:20
kinda nervous coming in as an untraditional guy around KJD's, billy madison vibes over here
jb2028
19:21
Re: costs, it's worth looking at costs all around, both schools cost (net tuition, $0 at Elon/$30K over 3 years if you're in-state at UTK) PLUS three years not earning money or advancing in your career, which is worth 6 figures if you make decent money now. $30K in tuition is a small share of total costs in this comparison
jb2028
19:24
"Fall behind" in this context means law school curves are rigid, no matter how hard everyone studies half the class will be below-median, 25% in the bottom quarter, etc. It's not super predictable either, so a student above GPA or LSAT median could still end up bottom half or 1/4 of the class
DisillusionedHomelessWalnut
19:27
gotcha. predatory in that instance is certainly appropriate
manifestmoreadmissions
19:32
i am not kjd but im glad jb cleared that up for you lmao
jb2028
19:32
And assuming similar class rank, UTK grads tend to do better in public data. Top students at UTK have a shot at biglaw (pays $225K), top students at Elon end up at small/medium firms (worse pay). Average students at UTK can get jobs at small/medium firms, average students at Elon are on the bubble for any firm job at all. Below-average students at UTK have a shot at firm jobs or other work, below-average students at Elon might not get jobs (or pass the bar, or avoid academic dismissal). That's the major advantage of well-regarded schools - more upside, less downside
manifestmoreadmissions
19:32
but yeah just reiterating that you could be worth so many damns and still not do well because its set up for that
jb2028
19:37
(This is ignoring public service/government jobs, because the stats there don't tell us much about the type of job - "super competitive Department of Justice job in DC making $90K" and "local government job earning $50K" both get lumped together under the "public service" label, but say v. different things about a school's job placement
DisillusionedHomelessWalnut
19:38
really appreciate all the insight
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