Law School Rankings - 2021

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Rank Name % w/ debt Avg. debt LSAT 50th GPA 50th Peer r. Legal r. Accept. Employ. JD+ employ. Bar pass Student-faculty
1 Yale University 66.2% $135,680 173 3.94 4.8% 4.7% 7.0% 94.5% 83.41% 124.4% 4.4
16 University of Texas at Austin 59.3% $113,386 168 3.76 4.1% 4.3% 18.0% 87.9% 87.88% 121.0% 6.0
29 Boston College 63.0% $114,838 164 3.69 3.4% 3.8% 32.0% 69.5% 88.26% 112.93% 6.4
50 University of California (Hastings) 74.4% $127,868 158 3.42 3.2% 3.6% 39.0% 48.0% 75.73% 113.91% 8.1
70 University of Kansas 73.5% $84,646 157 3.66 2.7% 3.2% 60.0% 59.8% 86.27% 102.89% 7.3
91 Rutgers University (merged) 75.3% $62,210 156 3.31 2.7% 2.9% 44.0% 72.4% 74.53% 96.01% 8.4
111 Indiana University - Indianapolis 77.4% $97,756 154 3.45 2.5% 2.8% 56.0% 39.8% 77.78% 92.9% 9.1
129 University of Baltimore 153 3.32 55.0% 73.23% 94.53%
147 Ave Maria School Of Law 151 3.37 52.0% 46.97% 78.88%
147 Florida A&M University 147 3.3 34.0% 53.49% 81.99%
147 Northern Illinois University 149 3.2 59.0% 84.34% 106.23%
147 Widener University—Delaware 149 3.22 63.0% 68.27% 73.76%
2 Stanford University 60.8% $146,235 171 3.89 4.8% 4.9% 10.0% 93.6% 90.11% 128.2% 4.4
16 Washington University in St. Louis 63.3% $92,504 169 3.88 3.7% 3.9% 20.0% 88.0% 91.91% 113.25% 4.6
29 University of Illinois—Urbana Champaign 65.1% $80,134 162 3.64 3.2% 3.4% 43.0% 73.9% 94.26% 123.76% 5.0
52 Southern Methodist University 56.4% $140,241 162 3.73 2.7% 3.2% 41.0% 71.5% 89.09% 111.94% 8.5
72 Loyola Marymount University—Los Angeles 73.7% $152,667 160 3.59 2.8% 3.2% 36.0% 48.0% 80.06% 112.34% 9.2
91 Illinois Institute of Technology (Kent) 72.1% $100,593 158 3.48 2.6% 2.8% 47.0% 56.9% 78.88% 107.32% 7.6
111 Stetson University 155 3.44 52.0% 79.76% 108.89%
129 Suffolk University 154 3.44 69.0% 77.7% 82.95%
147 Barry University 148 3.02 59.0% 52.17% 80.17%
147 Florida Coastal School Of Law 149 3.12 46.0% 65.15% 85.85%
147 Northern Kentucky University 152 3.19 65.0% 75.86% 84.57%
3 Harvard University 69.5% $170,866 173 3.88 4.8% 4.8% 13.0% 96.3% 91.99% 125.21% 7.1
16 Vanderbilt University 61.5% $143,293 167 3.82 4.0% 4.1% 23.0% 85.7% 92.34% 121.85% 6.6
29 Brigham Young University 65.7% $51,048 166 3.82 2.9% 3.3% 37.0% 82.2% 83.33% 112.01% 5.7
53 Yeshiva University (Cardozo) 57.3% $112,474 162 3.65 2.9% 3.1% 38.0% 53.1% 85.05% 101.46% 6.0
72 University of Miami 67.8% $140,595 159 3.53 2.9% 3.3% 51.0% 53.8% 78.22% 109.26% 6.4
91 Saint Louis University 79.7% $102,442 155 3.45 2.4% 2.7% 62.0% 72.2% 90.85% 107.52% 6.3
111 University of Tulsa 155 3.38 60.0% 88.64% 102.85%
129 University of Toledo 152 3.43 66.0% 80.0% 103.9%
147 California Western School Of Law 152 3.24 53.0% 61.79% 70.95%
147 Golden Gate University 150 3.02 55.0% 48.6% 62.43%
147 Nova Southeastern University 152 3.19 47.0% 66.37% 92.73%
4 University of Chicago 61.4% $191,117 171 3.89 4.6% 4.7% 18.0% 97.7% 94.55% 126.38% 5.2
19 University of Southern California 64.6% $140,773 167 3.83 3.6% 3.8% 17.0% 86.6% 90.18% 125.22% 6.7
29 University of Wisconsin 75.7% $71,467 163 3.61 3.4% 3.6% 42.0% 75.7% 93.55% 129.89% 7.4
53 University of Richmond 70.7% $114,514 161 3.62 2.8% 3.0% 44.0% 64.8% 81.67% 105.92% 4.8
72 St. John's University 66.3% $123,646 160 3.62 2.4% 2.9% 41.0% 68.2% 90.99% 104.37% 7.9
91 Michigan State University 78.1% $98,421 156 3.56 2.5% 3.0% 59.0% 51.2% 79.74% 105.74% 8.7
111 DePaul University 155 3.41 50.0% 79.81% 93.07%
134 Chapman University 159 3.52 33.0% 74.85% 85.75%
147 Campbell University 152 3.37 63.0% 78.57% 114.59%
147 Liberty University 151 3.4 55.0% 84.31% 119.09%
147 Ohio Northern University 150 3.26 50.0% 82.98% 111.71%
4 Columbia University 65.7% $190,141 172 3.82 4.7% 4.7% 17.0% 98.9% 97.22% 116.73% 5.2
20 Boston University 63.4% $104,584 167 3.8 3.5% 3.6% 25.0% 78.6% 89.68% 113.46% 6.1
35 University of California—Irvine 69.2% $131,786 166 3.61 3.6% 3.5% 20.0% 68.7% 81.56% 116.85% 5.6
53 Temple University 72.9% $86,344 161 3.57 3.8% 3.0% 36.0% 64.4% 90.74% 106.36% 6.6
72 Case Western Reserve University 66.3% $123,646 159 3.5 2.4% 2.9% 47.0% 68.2% 77.62% 103.17% 7.9
91 Howard University 88.0% $109,826 153 3.41 3.0% 3.1% 34.0% 54.9% 78.2% 88.96% 8.6
111 University of Missouri—Kansas City 153 3.43 55.0% 88.41% 101.23%
134 University of Montana 156 3.44 60.0% 77.46% 97.01%
147 Capital University 150 3.21 76.0% 67.33% 92.93%
147 Oklahoma City University 147 3.32 63.0% 72.87% 79.29%
6 New York University 57.7% $174,780 170 3.82 4.6% 4.5% 22.0% 95.6% 89.88% 116.34% 5.8
21 University of Florida (Levin) 65.2% $65,528 165 3.84 3.3% 3.6% 20.0% 79.5% 91.24% 122.55% 5.7
35 Fordham University 60.5% $140,184 164 3.64 3.4% 3.6% 27.0% 74.9% 87.7% 107.04% 6.7
41 George Mason University 64.2% $78,719 164 3.77 2.7% 3.1% 23.0% 75.8% 87.57% 117.09% 4.1
53 Texas A&M University 73.8% $82,886 160 3.76 2.7% 2.7% 22.0% 58.8% 92.31% 116.78% 5.9
60 University of Houston 67.2% $91,014 160 3.57 2.8% 3.0% 34.0% 56.4% 80.95% 110.21% 5.5
72 Wayne State University 67.6% $67,832 159 3.65 2.3% 2.7% 37.0% 61.2% 83.46% 115.54% 6.7
81 University of Kentucky 81.1% $80,368 155 3.54 2.5% 3.0% 61.0% 66.9% 92.64% 98.05% 7.5
96 University of Arkansas, Fayetteville 79.5% $68,877 155 3.61 2.4% 2.6% 54.0% 36.8% 76.92% 103.94% 6.7
98 University of Buffalo—SUNY 77.8% $89,628 155 3.52 2.3% 2.8% 45.0% 55.6% 80.14% 85.63% 5.6
116 Cleveland State University 153 3.35 47.0% 80.68% 95.21%
119 New York Law School 153 3.47 52.0% 87.5% 90.64%
134 Belmont University 156 3.6 39.0% 85.37% 119.48%
141 Creighton University 152 3.25 63.0% 75.0% 89.32%
147 Charleston School Of Law 150 3.2 55.0% 55.67% 66.64%
147 Regent University 155 3.45 51.0% 82.61% 107.3%
6 University of Pennsylvania 62.4% $163,383 170 3.89 4.4% 4.5% 14.0% 95.4% 94.8% 121.81% 4.7
22 University of Minnesota 65.2% $95,274 165 3.77 3.6% 3.6% 36.0% 84.8% 92.41% 116.86% 6.0
35 Washington and Lee University 70.8% $98,982 163 3.63 3.1% 3.7% 37.0% 77.3% 92.73% 116.53% 7.3
41 Wake Forest University 70.4% $99,277 163 3.73 3.1% 3.5% 18.0% 74.9% 90.06% 114.13% 7.4
53 Villanova University 64.3% $92,477 160 3.63 2.6% 3.3% 30.0% 80.0% 93.84% 112.44% 7.5
60 Pennsylvania State - Penn State Law 75.4% $83,475 160 3.72 2.6% 2.9% 38.0% 55.6% 80.42% 110.14% 7.1
72 University of Oregon 80.5% $97,999 157 3.48 2.8% 3.0% 60.0% 49.2% 84.38% 108.49% 8.5
81 American University 76.4% $159,723 160 3.51 3.0% 3.1% 36.0% 49.6% 74.69% 100.13% 7.4
96 University of South Carolina 75.6% $107,610 156 3.5 2.5% 2.9% 47.0% 53.9% 78.54% 107.83% 8.3
102 University of New Mexico 155 3.5 46.0% 70.18% 107.33%
116 West Virginia University 154 3.45 63.0% 73.53% 90.93%
119 University of Wyoming 153 3.4 57.0% 82.86% 100.61%
134 University of Akron 153 3.34 53.0% 82.17% 101.58%
141 University of Arkansas, Little Rock 151 3.41 50.0% 71.07% 91.96%
147 University of Detroit Mercy 152 3.24 54.0% 78.03% 85.72%
147 Roger Williams University 149 3.21 65.0% 65.67% 80.1%
8 University of Virginia 61.0% $165,911 170 3.9 4.4% 4.5% 14.0% 95.6% 95.45% 123.3% 7.1
22 University of Notre Dame 75.5% $128,653 167 3.75 3.5% 4.0% 20.0% 81.4% 88.6% 119.12% 7.3
35 William & Mary Law School 63.4% $91,816 163 3.6 3.4% 3.8% 42.0% 67.0% 91.74% 117.26% 6.9
43 Indiana University - Bloomington 68.8% $96,220 162 3.78 3.3% 3.5% 43.0% 63.2% 83.52% 116.85% 7.0
58 Baylor University 72.7% $152,209 160 3.63 2.5% 3.3% 34.0% 66.5% 92.91% 116.86% 6.6
60 University of Nevada—Las Vegas 70.0% $83,715 159 3.67 2.7% 2.5% 31.0% 71.3% 85.12% 108.18% 7.0
78 Loyola University—Chicago 67.7% $108,960 159 3.41 2.6% 3.1% 44.0% 57.8% 84.26% 115.14% 5.3
81 Brooklyn Law School 68.0% $110,832 158 3.44 2.7% 2.9% 49.0% 58.5% 83.18% 98.37% 9.1
98 University of Hawaii 66.7% $89,242 154 3.42 2.6% 2.5% 40.0% 61.6% 75.9% 89.7% 4.5
102 Marquette University 154 3.5 51.0% 81.22% 129.14%
116 Albany Law School Of Union University 154 3.4 51.0% 81.62% 91.04%
119 University of Dayton 152 3.48 36.0% 83.33% 107.02%
134 University of South Dakota 149 3.56 64.0% 80.0% 94.7%
141 University of the Pacific (Mcgeorge) 154 3.4 56.0% 76.47% 94.1%
147 University of the District of Columbia 150 3.09 33.0% 56.92% 51.27%
147 University of San Francisco 153 3.32 49.0% 49.58% 55.78%
9 University of California—Berkeley 69.5% $139,251 168 3.81 4.5% 4.5% 22.0% 93.5% 92.07% 125.72% 6.1
24 University of North Carolina 63.8% $92,731 163 3.68 3.5% 3.8% 22.0% 68.7% 91.26% 117.31% 7.3
35 University of California—Davis 57.0% $114,895 163 3.72 3.5% 3.5% 33.0% 71.5% 83.12% 120.64% 9.1
43 University of Utah 84.8% $76,344 161 3.77 3.0% 3.2% 33.0% 75.3% 89.41% 107.5% 4.4
58 University of Connecticut 67.1% $89,211 158 3.53 2.9% 3.0% 45.0% 69.5% 82.86% 108.01% 5.9
60 Pennsylvania State - Dickinson Law 60.3% $54,503 160 3.39 2.5% 2.8% 39.0% 59.2% 91.23% 104.72% 6.0
78 University of Denver 73.8% $160,006 159 3.55 2.8% 3.0% 51.0% 59.7% 79.84% 105.44% 6.5
81 University of Cincinnati 71.3% $166,163 158 3.65 2.4% 2.8% 51.0% 54.2% 80.99% 107.58% 6.3
98 University of Louisville 78.4% $96,920 155 3.63 2.2% 2.7% 49.0% 69.9% 86.11% 99.12% 9.0
102 Drake University 155 3.46 69.0% 87.5% 102.8%
119 Hofstra University 154 3.37 46.0% 82.94% 69.71%
124 University of Maine 156 3.51 46.0% 73.68% 100.48%
139 University of Idaho 153 3.24 67.0% 72.92% 94.18%
144 Loyola University—New Orleans 151 3.32 64.0% 73.65% 87.29%
147 Elon University 150 3.3 46.0% 78.64% 89.91%
147 South Texas College Of Law—Houston 152 3.17 46.0% 72.52% 99.03%
10 University of Michigan 73.5% $129,791 169 3.76 4.4% 4.5% 16.0% 93.0% 93.49% 123.59% 7.2
25 Arizona State University 68.1% $93,824 165 3.83 3.3% 3.2% 26.0% 79.1% 89.01% 116.88% 5.5
40 Ohio State University 70.7% $89,946 161 3.79 3.3% 3.5% 35.0% 86.3% 86.31% 108.7% 6.3
45 University of Washington 67.3% $108,725 162 3.68 3.3% 3.5% 35.0% 62.1% 85.35% 111.31% 5.8
60 Tulane University 70.8% $140,964 159 3.54 3.2% 3.4% 53.0% 55.6% 77.71% 99.23% 7.0
60 University of Missouri 70.2% $71,073 158 3.66 2.5% 2.9% 55.0% 64.6% 82.61% 108.88% 7.0
78 Georgia State University 73.0% $76,978 158 3.52 2.8% 2.7% 29.0% 56.3% 81.09% 131.84% 6.3
81 Drexel University 70.2% $72,407 156 3.56 2.4% 2.7% 43.0% 61.9% 88.81% 97.73% 6.1
98 University of Mississippi 69.0% $71,333 156 3.51 2.3% 2.8% 42.0% 49.4% 81.31% 96.67% 10.0
102 CUNY 154 3.45 35.0% 80.36% 89.88%
119 Duquesne University 154 3.41 57.0% 86.24% 108.58%
124 Mercer University 153 3.41 45.0% 86.05% 121.3%
139 Pace University 151 3.33 51.0% 85.41% 89.36%
144 University of Memphis 153 3.33 47.0% 73.56% 99.33%
147 Southern Illinois University—Carbondale 150 3.29 50.0% 66.67% 76.65%
10 Duke University 65.4% $153,276 169 3.8 4.2% 4.4% 22.0% 93.6% 95.48% 123.7% 5.2
25 University of Alabama 61.4% $64,271 164 3.94 3.3% 3.3% 36.0% 77.9% 89.47% 114.6% 5.8
46 University of Arizona 58.9% $67,014 163 3.56 3.2% 2.9% 28.0% 65.7% 81.82% 89.53% 4.5
60 University of Tennessee 70.3% $73,092 159 3.63 2.6% 3.0% 33.0% 55.1% 86.73% 106.28% 6.4
86 University of San Diego 71.5% $140,294 159 3.65 2.8% 2.9% 39.0% 49.6% 74.86% 109.44% 8.1
102 Catholic University Of America 156 3.4 42.0% 80.58% 108.23%
126 Santa Clara University 156 3.34 55.0% 67.77% 93.0%
144 Samford University 152 3.49 68.0% 82.71% 99.16%
147 Mississippi College 148 3.22 70.0% 59.32% 77.5%
147 Southern University 144 2.98 62.0% 57.42% 85.36%
147 Touro College 149 3.07 50.0% 77.88% 76.3%
12 Northwestern University 65.6% $154,844 169 3.85 4.2% 4.4% 19.0% 93.1% 95.83% 120.93% 4.5
27 George Washington University 68.1% $154,992 166 3.76 3.5% 3.7% 34.0% 64.1% 84.29% 116.81% 7.0
46 Pepperdine University 70.5% $143,901 162 3.68 2.7% 3.2% 28.0% 84.3% 83.71% 117.46% 6.5
67 Northeastern University 77.9% $79,454 162 3.65 2.6% 2.9% 36.0% 52.0% 84.98% 106.79% 8.4
87 University of Nebraska 77.9% $63,027 156 3.63 2.5% 2.8% 66.0% 65.0% 87.18% 107.74% 8.4
102 Syracuse University 155 3.53 39.0% 74.86% 102.59%
126 University of St. Thomas (Minnesota) 154 3.51 69.0% 83.21% 100.81%
147 John Marshall Law School 151 3.27 57.0% 67.1% 79.58%
147 Mitchell Hamline 152 3.24 58.0% 72.97% 86.98%
147 Southwestern Law School 153 3.25 47.0% 64.5% 81.45%
147 University of Massachusetts Dartmouth 149 3.27 56.0% 69.57% 77.05%
13 Cornell University 60.4% $150,089 168 3.86 4.3% 4.3% 19.0% 90.5% 88.66% 114.42% 5.0
27 University of Georgia 66.5% $75,568 165 3.78 3.3% 3.5% 19.0% 81.8% 92.82% 135.38% 7.7
48 University of Colorado—Boulder 74.6% $103,795 163 3.65 3.2% 3.2% 37.0% 67.0% 84.62% 114.32% 6.4
67 University of Oklahoma 63.8% $79,755 157 3.63 2.6% 3.0% 54.0% 57.0% 92.53% 111.37% 10.0
88 University of New Hampshire 80.6% $74,092 156 3.46 2.1% 2.7% 57.0% 66.0% 83.61% 120.59% 5.1
102 Texas Tech University 156 3.56 37.0% 82.22% 106.29%
126 Seattle University 155 3.39 60.0% 69.78% 94.38%
147 Vermont Law School 152 3.19 65.0% 66.1% 64.04%
147 New England Law | Boston 152 3.27 71.0% 65.75% 86.24%
147 St. Mary's University 151 3.2 58.0% 72.86% 90.09%
147 Western Michigan University (Cooley) 147 2.94 44.0% 49.47% 50.93%
14 University of California—Los Angeles 67.9% $125,167 169 3.79 4.1% 4.2% 23.0% 83.2% 91.17% 126.11% 5.9
29 Emory University 62.1% $128,635 166 3.8 3.6% 3.9% 32.0% 69.5% 80.07% 115.0% 7.2
48 Florida State University 74.6% $63,773 161 3.72 3.1% 3.0% 30.0% 60.3% 85.88% 122.51% 7.3
67 University of Pittsburgh 80.3% $104,255 159 3.51 2.7% 3.1% 42.0% 50.2% 85.83% 105.09% 5.3
88 Florida International University 74.0% $90,946 158 3.65 2.1% 2.4% 27.0% 47.1% 88.81% 133.69% 8.1
109 Louisiana State University 155 3.45 52.0% 84.39% 111.11%
129 Gonzaga University 153 3.43 59.0% 72.9% 99.83%
147 Willamette University 152 3.07 64.0% 77.01% 103.19%
147 North Carolina Central University 145 3.24 44.0% 62.39% 96.94%
147 St. Thomas University (Florida) 150 3.23 52.0% 63.64% 94.02%
147 Western New England University 148 3.27 60.0% 59.26% 80.62%
15 Georgetown University 62.2% $163,977 168 3.78 4.2% 4.3% 20.0% 82.6% 85.76% 120.37% 4.8
29 University of Iowa 74.4% $94,846 161 3.64 3.3% 3.6% 60.0% 70.7% 93.57% 117.17% 7.3
50 University of Maryland 61.4% $123,144 160 3.66 3.0% 3.0% 36.0% 68.4% 87.56% 111.69% 6.2
70 Seton Hall University 68.7% $128,806 158 3.55 2.5% 2.9% 46.0% 86.1% 90.71% 117.47% 7.6
88 Lewis And Clark College 75.9% $141,497 158 3.49 2.5% 3.0% 61.0% 52.2% 83.33% 101.8% 7.5
109 Washburn University 155 3.39 51.0% 83.33% 97.9%
129 Quinnipiac University 152 3.46 60.0% 77.78% 98.62%
147 Appalachian School of Law 147 3.17 45.0% 51.61% 62.18%
147 University of North Dakota 148 3.34 66.0% 67.59% 99.57%
147 Texas Southern University 148 3.17 30.0% 57.8% 72.05%
147 Western State College Of Law 150 3.14 43.0% 57.55% 81.52%
A rank of 147 means that the school is not ranked by U.S. News & World Report.
* The data in this table is user-reported and may be inaccurate.
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Tell us what's important to you
15:56
I imagine they'll understand, but that's wild. I didn't figure there would be any questions like that in the pool
15:56
I think it’s more about how you say ur answer rather than what u say when they ask a curveball or
15:56
Something outside of ur experience
15:56
absolutely, they're just trying to get a sense of your coherency
15:56
For sure. It’s just
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Good to appear personable and not like a robot
Are you allowed to have notes open during the interview/written portion?
I think so
Awesome
ProsecutorBae
15:58
A at FSU!!! My first in-state school!!! Let's gooooooo!!!
Go Noles!
@ProsecutorBae: congrats!
15:59
@ProsecutorBae: Congrats!!!
Congrats!!!
15:59
@ProsecutorBae: Big W friend!
16:00
Nice!!!
NaturalKindBarnacle
16:00
is the yale R wave over
NaturalKindBarnacle
16:00
is it safe to come out yet
ProsecutorBae
16:00
Thanks y'all!!!!
When do we think the first UT RD wave will be?
16:03
I think UT could be soon
16:03
Like next week or week after
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Complete guess btw
Could see that, I don’t think they sent a ton of IIs out
16:04
Doesn’t look like they did
Maybe they’ll decide on those and then send another wave
16:04
I’m excited I got one
16:04
Don’t wanna get too excited about it tho
Same, Austin is amazing
16:04
It really is
Literally the top place I’d want to go to college
/law school
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:04
Yale rejecting a 3.94 and 175 is cruel
16:04
Caught a SPWL at GULC and I don’t wanna go to UCLA
Stay strong kings
16:05
Assuming I were to get in
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I don't remember what the Admissions Officer from UT said verbatim he just told me to get my application in before Thanksgiving
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So UT would be dope
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:05
@LawDog: I'll take your UCLA A happily
16:05
If I had one I’d give it to u
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:05
lmao
16:05
That was really bold of me to assume I’d get in like that
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Didn’t mean that haha
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:05
if they call to give you the A tell Dean Schwartz I'm waiting for his call
LowkeyHarveySpecter
16:05
"null" on my checker disappeared last week and is back this week lmfao
I wouldn’t put any stock into the LSAC checkers
LowkeyHarveySpecter
16:06
u right u right
My WashU one had a gray bar for 2 months before I got in
LowkeyHarveySpecter
16:06
aaahhhh grey bar gate !
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:06
damn Yale rejected a 4.16 and 175
ut wave has me crying and throwing up
CapriciousPresentParrot
16:06
UCLA call me baby
I hope they give a pre Christmas wave of As
Or pre Hanukkah
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:07
Hanukkah is over babe
anoncat
16:07
Literally just applied to UCLA last week and have already developed a fat crush on that school
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:07
my crush is morbidly obese at this point
That’s what I get for trying to be inclusive
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:07
lmao
The law schools dragging their feet should really help people applying late or taking the January LSAT to boost chances
I’m waiting until I get into schools to develop crushes on them
Never again
anoncat
16:08
@SteadyLivelyTetra every time I visit a city that a school I applied to is in my crush is renewed
I’m now hopeful that if I can score in the low 170s (where my PTs are) I might have a shot at BU or UVA
anoncat
16:08
The only thing that could hurt is if they review in the order they were recieved
I personally feel like once u hit 170s you can apply to any school with the right personal statement
I’m optimistic in holistic
@anoncat: yeah, I just don’t see what incentive they have to do that. To them, it’s whoever has the better score I would think
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:10
if I just tested where my PTs are I'd be set
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:10
just trying to get 4 points under my PT at this point lol
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:10
that would still be a 4 point imporvement for me
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God i just need one of the schools in the t30 I applied to, to give me $$$$
16:10
lmao
16:11
Is ASU not $$$$ @frml
Mood
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:11
Yale really said none of you are good enough for us
Schools not listing $ amount with acceptances makes me sad
16:12
@Unamused: well it is, but I am really not super jazzed about Phoenix
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:12
it feels super unfair that schools get to be like "hmmm we don't know how much money we'll have so we'll let you know later besties" but we don't get to do that with app fees we have to pay it all then
SaulGoodmanLaw
16:12
Is this the busiest day of the cycle?
So far I think so
Day before thanksgiving may have been busier
I think the rest of this week will see a lot of movement too
But this is close
16:12
@FRML: Don't blame ya, who tf wants to live in a desert
I'm honestly glad I finally got some movement of any sort
16:13
I am also worried about their low BL placement
SaulGoodmanLaw
16:13
Glad to know I received no movement today lmao
paulettebonafonte
16:13
TAMU yesterday said to expect big waves starting in Jan, because they're biding their time to see what the applicant pool looks like
16:13
@LTCommanderLSData: ah hahahaha i love your username
16:13
not that i am biglaw or bust, but just would like the opportunity maybe
bearbearbear
16:13
Can ucla call me 🧍🏻‍♀️
bearbearbear
16:13
How often do schools ghost ppl
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:13
@bearbearbear: 3 way call so they can accept us both
@bearbearbear: My fears lol
bearbearbear
16:14
🤝🤝ok
Monkeymammoth
16:14
gulc!!!!
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:14
people applying after me are officially getting accepted as of today and that scares me
16:15
Ehhh that's just how the cycle works, be better is they were all FIFO, but that's just not the case
Abcdefg1234
16:16
in at gulc!
16:16
FIFO would be horrific from a school's perspective
Monkeymammoth
16:16
looks like the incoming gulc wave is here
Monkeymammoth
16:16
congrats!!!!!!
16:16
Congrats!
16:17
Phoenix was hot and flat and dry and i got nosebleeds like twice a day randomly @frml, not much to be excited about
16:17
yes, FIO is too ridged for making decisions, they have groups and catagories they need to ry and fill, while our numbers make up the lion's share f the decsiion, what groups and catagories we fallinto probably decides the timing of our decisions.
16:17
but proximity to the grand canyon is dope
16:18
meh, hole in the ground
16:18
GULCH wave?
16:19
another day another no North Carolina movement
16:19
tough
16:19
the south is slow
16:19
everytime I see GULC i think of 'double gulp cup'
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:19
damn someone has a 4.0 and 178 that just got the A for GULC
16:19
UGA, Emory, UNC, Duke, WF
paulettebonafonte
16:19
FRML, don
16:19
dont understand why so slow tho
paulettebonafonte
16:19
don't let the grand canyon sway you, TR canyon is the second biggest lol
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:19
if adcomms could label their promotional emails clearly in the subject line it would save me lots of agony
InfamousPhobicWalrus
16:20
doubt that person will go to gulc though
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:20
it should be like PROMO: jdiojasdioa
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:20
@InfamousPhobicWalrus: I feel like they have to have demonstrated interest or they would have considered YP since they
I sense a disturbance in the force, like my GULC application called out for help and was suddenly silenced
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:20
have denied people with similar stats
MaddObscure
16:20
they're actually sending you e-mails? :(
paulettebonafonte
16:21
nebraska sent me an email titled "the whole package' and that nearly gave me a heart attack
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:21
tbh I'd rather hear nothing than have my heart stop once an hour from a promo email
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:21
that's just CRUEL
OverjoyedAbsentPorcupine
16:21
fml missed the GULC wave too
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:21
same, no wave for me
16:21
all my status checkers have errors and i can't log in to any of the actual status checker pages
16:21
anyone else uhhhhhhh have this problem
try a different browser / your phone
cybernothing
16:22
it happens sporadically for me. Usually is fixed in a few minutes
I've noticed it does that when a lot of activity is happening. Ppl checking statuses/ schools doing who knows what
OverjoyedAbsentPorcupine
16:23
yeah mine is doing the same but not the first time it's happened
16:23
still not working, thats weird
16:23
even for the school websites? wild
16:23
this is shaping up to be a big day
yeah well over 200 decisions, damn
OverjoyedAbsentPorcupine
16:24
@FRML: selfishly the worst feeling when it's a big day but you haven't been part of the party
OverjoyedAbsentPorcupine
16:24
obviously happy for everyone but damn this shit sucks
LexLaw
16:24
@OverjoyedAbsentPorcupine: yeah I've had 0 movement today
Decision made at UWisc
LexLaw
16:24
but congrats to all those As
whenever it's happened for me usually a few people got a decision from a school so I'm guessing everyone is trying to check their status
@DidacticUnderstoodCivet: I’ve been getting Happy Birthday emails from schools I didn’t even apply to…
MaddObscure
16:24
wow lol
OverjoyedAbsentPorcupine
16:25
when the GULC wave started just now there was a Gtown ad in my gmail promotions folder fml lol
LexLaw
16:25
maybe Duke will go wild and end the day with an A wave
MaddObscure
16:26
soon we'll be getting promo flyers on our car windshields
159 As today
OverjoyedAbsentPorcupine
16:26
I think they're gonna hold off until they're number 1 in NCAA again
Nice
16:26
God i hope so (at least if there is one with me in it uwu)
16:26
dont play @lexlaw
16:26
id be so happy
OverjoyedAbsentPorcupine
16:26
which as a UNC fan I cannot root for
LexLaw
16:26
@NO6300: you never know, that A yesterday was pretty late in the day
LexLaw
16:27
Dukeee, Wakeee, UNC where are youu
anoncat
16:27
NC doesn't exist anymore @LexLaw
anoncat
16:28
It's a myth, was absorbed into the atlantic following the Civil War
OverjoyedAbsentPorcupine
16:28
The Lost Colony except the whole state and it just happened
16:28
@LexLaw: dont expect WFU to even breathe until late Jan
LexLaw
16:28
and everyone including me who lives in the state has been brainwashed to think we still exist
It's interesting how small that GULC wave appears to have been, I was expecting something more
LexLaw
16:29
@FRML: the moved me into review last month so maybe they'll give us a lil Christmas gift
LexLaw
16:29
*they
16:29
I suppose so. Same here I believe
16:29
yeah went UR 2 weeks ago
My WFU date has been gone for like a week now
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:30
@LTCommanderLSData: that also happened to me lmao
LexLaw
16:30
mine has been gone for like 3 weeks
LexLaw
16:30
and just says "under review"
LexLaw
16:30
so idk what's up with that
16:30
same I dont have a status date
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:31
it's at the point where I'm getting promo emails in my dreams
16:31
they didnt really put anyone UR until around this time last year so who knows
LexLaw
16:31
yeah that's what I saw too so maybe next week before break they'll give us some As
16:31
maybe they will bestow upon me an A with $$$$ the way the wisemen bestowed gifts on the infant savior on christmas day
Blarghblawlaw
16:31
this process is so horrible
Blarghblawlaw
16:31
so so so horrible
16:31
@LexLaw: mine still says complete ready to review:(
Hamotron
16:32
today is so big and I still haven't had anything
16:32
but duke ur3 and unc complete too
all y'all getting into Wisconsin, was it by email or status checker?
DidacticUnderstoodCivet
16:32
I kind of wish it was like undergrad where you find out all on the same day
LowkeyHarveySpecter
16:32
@NO6300: mine says the same
LexLaw
16:32
@FRML: I would cry if I got full $$$$ from WF
@Hamotron: same
16:32
I would cry if i got any from NC
16:32
@FestiveLackadaisicalFousek: email
16:32
i wanna be there
16:32
so fucking bad
LexLaw
16:32
@NO6300: it will come friend
16:32
great state in my opinion
LowkeyHarveySpecter
16:33
Do you guys know if wake does interviews?
Apparently the criteria for decisions every day for the past month is to simply be a school I have not applied to
16:33
@LexLaw: wait what are your stats?