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Taking the Bar Exam Without Law School

Can you and should you?
Tags: Bar Prep, Bar Studying
Apr 2, 2023

If you're reading this, you might be thinking about taking the bar exam and becoming a lawyer. Many people believe that you have to go to law school to take the bar exam, but that's not always true. Although it's more common to finish law school first, a few states let you take the bar exam without going to law school.

Historically, meaning before law schools existed, people who wanted to be lawyers learned through apprenticeships. They would work in a law office to gain experience. The Inns of Court system helped people find lawyers to train with. Later, colleges began offering law degrees as another option to become a lawyer, and the American Bar Association (ABA) was created to maintain the profession of the law.Scroll downto learn more about the history of the ABA.

Can you become a lawyer without passing the bar?

Bar Admission is controlled at the state level so rules vary by state. You can only take the bar exam without going to law school in a few states, and each state has its own rules about the exact requirements to take the bar. 

States that let you take the bar exam without going to law school include:

 

  1. California
  2. Vermont
  3. Virginia
  4. Washington State

Each state has specific rules about how much studying and/or work experience is needed. To take the Bar. Some states require at least some law school, but they also allow for apprenticeships. These states include: 

  1. New York
  2. Maine
  3. West Virginia

Is it okay to take the bar without going to law school?

Of course. If it is allowed by your state, then it is okay to do. However, taking the bar exam without going to law school does have pros and cons. On one hand, it can save you money (spoiler: law school is expensive) and give you hands-on experience before taking the Bar. 

On the other hand, gaining the experience necessary to become lawyer without getting a JD can be time-consuming and will limit when and where you can practice law.

Before deciding to take the bar exam without going to law school, think about the pros and cons. Also, check out some frequently asked questions about taking the bar exam without going to law school in different states. State Bars that allow for taking the bar without law school will often have a dedicated web page to the idea. For example, check out Vermont’s.

In conclusion, if you want to become a lawyer without going to law school, you might have a chance if you live in one of the few states that allow it. This path can provide valuable hands-on experience, but it's important to weigh the benefits and drawbacks before making a decision.

What is the History of the ABA

The American Bar Association (ABA) is a professional organization for lawyers in the United States. Established in 1878, the ABA has played a significant role in the development of the legal profession, setting ethical standards, and advocating for improvements in the justice system.

The history of the American Bar Association began in the late 19th century when a group of lawyers recognized the need for a national organization to address the challenges faced by the legal profession. At that time, the legal profession was growing rapidly, and many lawyers felt that there was a lack of consistency in the standards and practices across different states.

On August 21, 1878, about 100 lawyers from 21 states and the District of Columbia gathered in Saratoga Springs, New York, to establish the ABA. The founding members aimed to create an organization that would promote legal education, maintain high standards for the profession, and facilitate cooperation among lawyers.

Throughout its history, the ABA has made significant contributions to the legal profession and the wider society. 

Some notable historical milestones of the ABA include

Developing the Model Rules of Professional Conduct: The ABA has been instrumental in creating guidelines for ethical behavior among lawyers. The Model Rules of Professional Conduct, first adopted in 1983, serve as a foundation for many state bar associations' ethical rules.

Advocating for Legal Education: The ABA has been an advocate for improving legal education in the United States. The ABA's Section of Legal Education and Admissions to the Bar was created in 1893 and is responsible for accrediting law schools and ensuring that they meet educational standards.

Supporting Diversity and Inclusion: The ABA has been active in promoting diversity and inclusion in the legal profession. The association has established various sections and committees to address the needs of minority lawyers and other underrepresented groups.

Influencing Public Policy: The ABA has played a significant role in shaping public policy on legal matters. It has provided input on legislation, court decisions, and other legal developments. The ABA also contributes to the judicial nomination process by evaluating the qualifications of potential federal judges.

Providing Resources and Services: The ABA offers numerous resources and services to its members and the public, including legal publications, continuing education programs, and networking opportunities.

Today, the American Bar Association remains an influential organization that represents the interests of its members and seeks to improve the legal profession and the justice system in the United States. With over 400,000 members, the ABA continues to advocate for ethical standards, provide resources for legal professionals, and work towards ensuring equal access to justice for all.

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Windsor MIT '22, Harvard College Advisor

I am the half of LSD that didn't take the LSAT, or go to law school (Sorry about that). But I did go to MIT business school while surrounded by law students and lawyers, so I am somewhat qualified to talk about the intricacies of law school apps and finances.

Windsor (the dog) didn't write this but he WAS a Resident Tutor and career advisor at Harvard College with me, so deserves some credit.

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questioning whether i go to school for free at a lesser school or pay some out of pocket at a better name for the same degree at end of the day, the numbers don't lie
18:54
@DisillusionedHomelessWalnut: The way the curve works is a below-median student at Tennessee (curves to a 3.1, so B/B+) can end up with a better GPA than an above-average student at Elon (curves to a 2.67/B-minus), so the student from Tennessee will have a better transcript *and* get better jobs on average than someone with the same class rank at Elon
18:56
Your real alarm bell is Elon's curve (linked here, p. 70 https://eloncdn.blob.core.windows.net/eu3/sites/996/2019/07/2017-2018_Academic_Catalog-and-Student_Handbook.pdf) *requires* profs to give 20% of first-year students a C-minus or worse, when the school's bar for "satisfactory academic progress" is a C+ average
ooooffff. thanks. i mean, full ride is cool and all, but damn
18:59
The only scenario where a school does something like that (curve to a 2.67, dismiss students below 2.25) is when they're admitting a lot of students who may not pass the bar, then flunking people out mercilessly so the school can keep its accreditation (ABA requires 75% of grads to pass the bar within two years, can't fail the bar if the school doesn't let you graduate)
the dean told me "no students had their scholarships reduced in the past three years, and to my recollection only one scholarship in 19 years has been reduced when a student was in good standing"
yeah, i get that and appreciate you validating that point. i like to think it really wouldn't apply to me and assume it happens due to the lower standards of admissions they utilize, but is it (full ride) worth the risk? that's the fly in the ointment
just trying to weigh all angles, seems like just biting the bullet and paying the modest amount to UTK is a smarter decision
end of cycle is for the birds, but i'm playing the hand i was dealt :)
19:06
In general you are going to be better off at a school that wants its students to succeed. UTK seems to fit the description - they are not in any danger of losing their accreditation, don't need to force people out. Elon very much does not, if their bar passage drops 2% they'll be in violation of ABA requirements so they won't give students any leway
19:06
*leeway
i appreciate your insight, friend
manifestmoreadmissions
19:11
im too lazy to provide the same level of detail as JB but I agree UTK seems like a better bet to actually achieve your career goals and set yourself up for success. I would understand being conflicted if it were like UTK vs Belmont or a lower ranked school that isn't considered predatory but because it's Elon that makes it more clear to me
thank you
the counterpoint bouncing around my head is basically "if i'm worth a damn, as i think i am, i'll be just fine no matter what the curve is" but you folks are nudging me in the direction of logic and common sense
manifestmoreadmissions
19:18
plenty of the people who fall behind are worth a damn it's just that some schools are basically set up to screw people over
yeah. fall behind as in....miss homework? can't keep up with readings? something else?
kinda nervous coming in as an untraditional guy around KJD's, billy madison vibes over here
19:21
Re: costs, it's worth looking at costs all around, both schools cost (net tuition, $0 at Elon/$30K over 3 years if you're in-state at UTK) PLUS three years not earning money or advancing in your career, which is worth 6 figures if you make decent money now. $30K in tuition is a small share of total costs in this comparison
19:24
"Fall behind" in this context means law school curves are rigid, no matter how hard everyone studies half the class will be below-median, 25% in the bottom quarter, etc. It's not super predictable either, so a student above GPA or LSAT median could still end up bottom half or 1/4 of the class
gotcha. predatory in that instance is certainly appropriate
manifestmoreadmissions
19:32
i am not kjd but im glad jb cleared that up for you lmao
19:32
And assuming similar class rank, UTK grads tend to do better in public data. Top students at UTK have a shot at biglaw (pays $225K), top students at Elon end up at small/medium firms (worse pay). Average students at UTK can get jobs at small/medium firms, average students at Elon are on the bubble for any firm job at all. Below-average students at UTK have a shot at firm jobs or other work, below-average students at Elon might not get jobs (or pass the bar, or avoid academic dismissal). That's the major advantage of well-regarded schools - more upside, less downside
manifestmoreadmissions
19:32
but yeah just reiterating that you could be worth so many damns and still not do well because its set up for that
19:37
(This is ignoring public service/government jobs, because the stats there don't tell us much about the type of job - "super competitive Department of Justice job in DC making $90K" and "local government job earning $50K" both get lumped together under the "public service" label, but say v. different things about a school's job placement
really appreciate all the insight
manifestmoreadmissions
23:07
for those going to school in fall 24 when did you add your school to your linkedin profile
MightyUnableSphinx
23:13
add as soon as you get in! :)
MightyUnableSphinx
23:13
it's like a little micro celebration!
23:15
Anyone else here plan on practicing around PDX?
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