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How Much Do Lawyers Make

Like, all lawyers. Not just big wigs in NYC
Apr 2, 2023

Table of contents

  1. Summary
  2. Private Sector
  3. Big Law
  4. Smaller Firms
  5. Government
  6. Public Interest
  7. ACLU
  8. National Average
  9. Related Articles

There is a lot of information out there on lawyer salaries but it is pretty hard to figure out exactly what you can expect to make because it depends on a variety of factors. In order to break it down, we will consider different categories of law and the course of a career. 

While there are near infinite paths you can take after law school, it is easier to look at what lawyers make if we look at three paths: 

  1. Private Sector
  2. Public Interest 
  3. Government 

Summary: 

When we consider how much money lawyers actually make we can that is varies pretty drastically.

Big Law: $3.1M earned over the first 8 years after law school

Small firms: $1.4M earned over the first 8 years after law school

Government: $694k earned over the first 8 years after law school

ACLU: $797kearned over the first 8 years after law school

Average Public Interest: $510kearned over the first 8 years after law school

All of these are substantially higher than the median American, but if you can get into law school you probably have more options and opportunities than the median American. Also, these numbers don’t account for the ~$160k that you will likely have to borrow to go to school, or the fact that you probably won’t work for 3 years while you are in school. 

Private Sector

When you first start working as a lawyer in a law firm, you’ll be what’s called a first year associate. Associate salaries follow a bimodal distribution. What this means is that salary ranges are distributed in two separate groups (two modes, bimodal). Within the private sector there is a big difference between Big Law and smaller firms. For simplicity we can separate small firms by looking at firms with 700 attorneys, or fewer. 

Big Law 

What is Big Law? People use the term Big Law to mean corporate-type law firms that make a lot of money. When ‘normal’ people think about lawyers making a bunch of money and sitting in board rooms they usually are thinking about someone who works in Big Law (Suits anyone?). Big Law lawyers work a lot of hours and make a lot (at least to me) of money.  

How much do Big Law attorneys actually make?

Big Law salaries are in lockstep, meaning almost every first year associate receives the same amount in salary. In 2022, first year associate salary was $215,000. When you become a second-year associate, this bumps up for everyone, regardless of performance.

These are estimates. Associates at big law firms make, on average: 

Earnings over the first 8 years after law school: $3.1M

After about 8 years you will almost definitely have left the firm or made partner. On average Partners make $1.1M per year, but it varies a ton. With some Big Law partners making (probably) more than $10M. 

Smaller firms

According to Nerdwallet, at smaller private law firms the median starting salary is $98,750

If we assume that % raises and bonuses match big law then we can see, how much private lawyers make:

Earnings over the first 8 years after law school: $1.4M 

Government:

While not all encompassing, the majority of Federal Government employees (including attorneys) are paid based on the General Schedule (or GS) scale. However, it is a little unclear what that actually means. The GS is put out annually by the Office of Personnel Management and it ranges from a GS-1 to a GS-15. You can find the GS Scale here if you are interested.

In order to dig into a specific example, let’s look at how the Department of Justice pays for lawyers who are not working in US Attorneys offices.

At DOJ, assuming you don’t clerk beforehand, you start as a GS-11 step 1 and there are required minimum amounts of time that you have to stay at one level until you can get promoted. We will assume that you get promoted at twice the time than the minimum. So if the minimum is 6 months, we will assume it takes a year. With that we get:

Earnings over the first 8 years after law school: $694,000

After about 8 years (Keep in mind that the DOJ says it is possible to make GS-15 in 3.5 years) you would then go up the GS-15 steps. Once you are a GS-15 there are higher positions and appointed positions that make more money and have more responsibility. 

Public Interest

Public interest pay varies quite a bit. But to simplify we can look at two career paths.

ACLU

First, the highly coveted and competitive ACLU job. 

The ACLU has a litigator scale that determines pay for attorneys in the Legal Department. 

An estimate of how much you can expect to make as an ACLU attorney:

Earnings over the first 8 years after law school: $796,565

This is quite a bit, and might be a little misleading since most organizations can’t pay as much as the ACLU, so let’s look at more standardized information. Zip Recruiter offers some good data:

Average Public Interest

“While ZipRecruiter is seeing annual salaries as high as $149,000 and as low as $22,500, the majority of Nonprofit Lawyer salaries currently range between $42,500 (25th percentile) to $85,000 (75th percentile) with top earners (90th percentile) making $120,000 annually across the United States. The average pay range for a Nonprofit Lawyer varies greatly (by as much as $42,500), which suggests there may be many opportunities for advancement and increased pay based on skill level, location and years of experience.”

If we assume that you start at the 25th percentile and get to the 75th percentile by year 8, then you have a (probably more realistic) estimate for the amount you can expect to make as a public interest lawyer:

Earnings over the first 8 years after law school: $510,000

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I am the half of LSD that didn't take the LSAT, or go to law school (Sorry about that). But I did go to MIT business school while surrounded by law students and lawyers, so I am somewhat qualified to talk about the intricacies of law school apps and finances.

Windsor (the dog) didn't write this but he WAS a Resident Tutor and career advisor at Harvard College with me, so deserves some credit.

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questioning whether i go to school for free at a lesser school or pay some out of pocket at a better name for the same degree at end of the day, the numbers don't lie
18:54
@DisillusionedHomelessWalnut: The way the curve works is a below-median student at Tennessee (curves to a 3.1, so B/B+) can end up with a better GPA than an above-average student at Elon (curves to a 2.67/B-minus), so the student from Tennessee will have a better transcript *and* get better jobs on average than someone with the same class rank at Elon
18:56
Your real alarm bell is Elon's curve (linked here, p. 70 https://eloncdn.blob.core.windows.net/eu3/sites/996/2019/07/2017-2018_Academic_Catalog-and-Student_Handbook.pdf) *requires* profs to give 20% of first-year students a C-minus or worse, when the school's bar for "satisfactory academic progress" is a C+ average
ooooffff. thanks. i mean, full ride is cool and all, but damn
18:59
The only scenario where a school does something like that (curve to a 2.67, dismiss students below 2.25) is when they're admitting a lot of students who may not pass the bar, then flunking people out mercilessly so the school can keep its accreditation (ABA requires 75% of grads to pass the bar within two years, can't fail the bar if the school doesn't let you graduate)
the dean told me "no students had their scholarships reduced in the past three years, and to my recollection only one scholarship in 19 years has been reduced when a student was in good standing"
yeah, i get that and appreciate you validating that point. i like to think it really wouldn't apply to me and assume it happens due to the lower standards of admissions they utilize, but is it (full ride) worth the risk? that's the fly in the ointment
just trying to weigh all angles, seems like just biting the bullet and paying the modest amount to UTK is a smarter decision
end of cycle is for the birds, but i'm playing the hand i was dealt :)
19:06
In general you are going to be better off at a school that wants its students to succeed. UTK seems to fit the description - they are not in any danger of losing their accreditation, don't need to force people out. Elon very much does not, if their bar passage drops 2% they'll be in violation of ABA requirements so they won't give students any leway
19:06
*leeway
i appreciate your insight, friend
manifestmoreadmissions
19:11
im too lazy to provide the same level of detail as JB but I agree UTK seems like a better bet to actually achieve your career goals and set yourself up for success. I would understand being conflicted if it were like UTK vs Belmont or a lower ranked school that isn't considered predatory but because it's Elon that makes it more clear to me
thank you
the counterpoint bouncing around my head is basically "if i'm worth a damn, as i think i am, i'll be just fine no matter what the curve is" but you folks are nudging me in the direction of logic and common sense
manifestmoreadmissions
19:18
plenty of the people who fall behind are worth a damn it's just that some schools are basically set up to screw people over
yeah. fall behind as in....miss homework? can't keep up with readings? something else?
kinda nervous coming in as an untraditional guy around KJD's, billy madison vibes over here
19:21
Re: costs, it's worth looking at costs all around, both schools cost (net tuition, $0 at Elon/$30K over 3 years if you're in-state at UTK) PLUS three years not earning money or advancing in your career, which is worth 6 figures if you make decent money now. $30K in tuition is a small share of total costs in this comparison
19:24
"Fall behind" in this context means law school curves are rigid, no matter how hard everyone studies half the class will be below-median, 25% in the bottom quarter, etc. It's not super predictable either, so a student above GPA or LSAT median could still end up bottom half or 1/4 of the class
gotcha. predatory in that instance is certainly appropriate
manifestmoreadmissions
19:32
i am not kjd but im glad jb cleared that up for you lmao
19:32
And assuming similar class rank, UTK grads tend to do better in public data. Top students at UTK have a shot at biglaw (pays $225K), top students at Elon end up at small/medium firms (worse pay). Average students at UTK can get jobs at small/medium firms, average students at Elon are on the bubble for any firm job at all. Below-average students at UTK have a shot at firm jobs or other work, below-average students at Elon might not get jobs (or pass the bar, or avoid academic dismissal). That's the major advantage of well-regarded schools - more upside, less downside
manifestmoreadmissions
19:32
but yeah just reiterating that you could be worth so many damns and still not do well because its set up for that
19:37
(This is ignoring public service/government jobs, because the stats there don't tell us much about the type of job - "super competitive Department of Justice job in DC making $90K" and "local government job earning $50K" both get lumped together under the "public service" label, but say v. different things about a school's job placement
really appreciate all the insight
manifestmoreadmissions
23:07
for those going to school in fall 24 when did you add your school to your linkedin profile
MightyUnableSphinx
23:13
add as soon as you get in! :)
MightyUnableSphinx
23:13
it's like a little micro celebration!
23:15
Anyone else here plan on practicing around PDX?
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