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What Law School should I go to?

The one you get into that you like the most...
Apr 2, 2023

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  1. Summary
  2. Post-JD
  3. Academic Experience
  4. Cost
  5. Related Articles

In short, you should go to the law school where you get in that will give you the greatest chance of success after you graduate

But what does that actually mean in terms of what law school you should go to? The easy answer is that it depends on what you want from law school, and what you want to do afterwards. But we can dive a little deeper into the question and some potential ways that you can/should think about it. 

Before going any further I want to call out the difference between what schools you apply to and the school that you end up going to. We often talk to students who don’t apply to schools because they think they are ‘too hard to get into’ or ‘too expensive.’ However, for each of these students there are students who reach out to tell us at LSD that they were accepted to a T-14 school because they saw a LSD user with similar stats that had gotten in. 

So we encourage you to set realistic expectations, and we acknowledge that applying to law school is not cheap. However, the opportunities at different law schools vary wildly so you shouldn’t self eliminate from a dream school simply because you think ‘Oh there is no way I will get in.”

Alright, the question of what law school you should go to (after you have applied to a bunch and been accepted at a bunch, or a few, or one). 

First, you can think about the easiest to find piece of information which is the school rank. Usually, when people think about school rankings they are talking about USNews rankings which have been the main source of law school rankings since ~1990. These one-size fits all rankings are a great place to start to get a general idea of where different schools fall, but it is not the end all of choices. 

So what else matters? The answers to this question are pretty much infinite, but we can look at some important things to help you compare schools. To keep it simple we will think about 3 things: 

  1. What you want to do after you graduate. 
  2. Your academic experience. So, activities, peers, and professors.
  3. How much money matters. So cost, income, and income potential.

Post-JD

Different schools will posture you differently for different roles. For example, if you want to go into Big Law, then you should do whatever you can to get into a T-14 school because getting a Big Law job afterwards is relatively guaranteed. However, if you don’t want to do Big Law and you don’t care about being on the US Supreme court one day (in which case you pretty much have to go to Harvard or Yale), then choosing the ‘right’ school isn’t quite as clear. For argument’s sake, let’s consider someone who knows they want to live in Florida, and is interested in doing something like becoming a US Attorney or a Florida supreme court justice one day. 

So let’s look at what law schools the three US Attorneys and seven FL justices went to in order to see if you really NEED to go to a T-14 school to be successful. (Information is based on the written date of May 2022.)  Why Florida? I lived there once, literally no other reason.

Florida US Attorneys

1x Harvard #4

1x University of Miami #73

1x Washburn University #105

Florida Supreme Court

2x Florida State University #47

2x Yale #1

1x Harvard #4

1x University of Florida #21

1x University of Mississippi #111 

So what does this information tell us about choosing a law school? Well a few things. First, it doesn’t hurt to go to Harvard or Yale (duh). But it also shows that when you are looking at local, state, or federal (but regionally aligned) positions, ranking starts to matter less, and location matters more. 

So our recommendation: if you get into a top law school (~T-14) it will keep more opportunities open. But if you don’t then choosing based on region/state can matter more for your future. So if you want to work in Florida, then it probably makes sense to go to a T-14, but if you don’t get in, then go to a school in Florida or at least the South East.

Academic Experience  

Things like enrollment size, available activities, stated (or unstated) ideology, class diversity, and others might play into your decision of what is the best law school for you. 

Enrollment size: Some people really like the idea of going to a smaller school where you know everyone, and some people hate this idea; neither is inherently better, but you should think about it when choosing a school. If 20% of a student body identifies as X in a class of 100 then there are 20 people there with that identity. If 20% of a student body identifies as X in a class of 500 then there are 100 people there with that identity. This math might be obvious but the point is often missed when comparing schools. There are going to be more people of every identity at bigger schools. 

Available activities: Different schools have different journals and clubs. When looking at schools, you should make sure that the programs and activities they offer are ones that you want to take part in. 

Ideology: Some law schools lean conservative and some liberal. You might want to go to a school where people believe the same things as you, or one where you will butt heads with others. Either makes sense, but you should make that decision deliberately. 

Diversity of classmates: Law schools run the gamut when it comes to class diversity. Some report proudly their class demographics while others bury that information deep in their website. USNews has the information available for all schools if you are willing to pay them.

Cost

This one might be obvious from the outside, but it is easy to forget about once you actually get in. When you are considering what school to go to it is important to plan for the long run. We recommend planning out all the way to at least 10-years past law school. We say 10 years because that is how long most loans take to pay off if you make the expected payments each month.

T-14 (really like T-45) schools are more expensive than others, but the median earnings after you graduate are also much higher. If you only looked at cost, then you might think a lower ranked school is cheaper, but those schools often have very low employment rates and low earnings (even in the private sector). So when you are comparing the cost of different law schools, you should think about how much money you will have 10-years after law school when you are done paying off your loans. To do this, we recommend using the median earnings from the schools, and assume you will make a reasonable raise every year, say 5% . If you need help making the spreadsheet to plan this out, just shoot us an email (help@lsd.law) and we are happy to discuss it with you. 

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Windsor MIT '22, Harvard College Advisor

I am the half of LSD that didn't take the LSAT, or go to law school (Sorry about that). But I did go to MIT business school while surrounded by law students and lawyers, so I am somewhat qualified to talk about the intricacies of law school apps and finances.

Windsor (the dog) didn't write this but he WAS a Resident Tutor and career advisor at Harvard College with me, so deserves some credit.

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18:38
Depending on your stats the answer could also be option C, reapply next year for >50% at Tennessee/substantial $ at other good schools (most spend their scholarship budget by June 30th), but that depends on your situation and goals
18:39
Standardized info on curves is harder to find, but this says Elon curves to a 2.67 which is downright predatory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_school_GPA_curves
appreciate it. i am well removed from undergrad and am pushing through for this year. have significant business experience and want to do corporate law and/or property. not educated on the curve and how that works, will look into that
questioning whether i go to school for free at a lesser school or pay some out of pocket at a better name for the same degree at end of the day, the numbers don't lie
18:54
@DisillusionedHomelessWalnut: The way the curve works is a below-median student at Tennessee (curves to a 3.1, so B/B+) can end up with a better GPA than an above-average student at Elon (curves to a 2.67/B-minus), so the student from Tennessee will have a better transcript *and* get better jobs on average than someone with the same class rank at Elon
18:56
Your real alarm bell is Elon's curve (linked here, p. 70 https://eloncdn.blob.core.windows.net/eu3/sites/996/2019/07/2017-2018_Academic_Catalog-and-Student_Handbook.pdf) *requires* profs to give 20% of first-year students a C-minus or worse, when the school's bar for "satisfactory academic progress" is a C+ average
ooooffff. thanks. i mean, full ride is cool and all, but damn
18:59
The only scenario where a school does something like that (curve to a 2.67, dismiss students below 2.25) is when they're admitting a lot of students who may not pass the bar, then flunking people out mercilessly so the school can keep its accreditation (ABA requires 75% of grads to pass the bar within two years, can't fail the bar if the school doesn't let you graduate)
the dean told me "no students had their scholarships reduced in the past three years, and to my recollection only one scholarship in 19 years has been reduced when a student was in good standing"
yeah, i get that and appreciate you validating that point. i like to think it really wouldn't apply to me and assume it happens due to the lower standards of admissions they utilize, but is it (full ride) worth the risk? that's the fly in the ointment
just trying to weigh all angles, seems like just biting the bullet and paying the modest amount to UTK is a smarter decision
end of cycle is for the birds, but i'm playing the hand i was dealt :)
19:06
In general you are going to be better off at a school that wants its students to succeed. UTK seems to fit the description - they are not in any danger of losing their accreditation, don't need to force people out. Elon very much does not, if their bar passage drops 2% they'll be in violation of ABA requirements so they won't give students any leway
19:06
*leeway
i appreciate your insight, friend
manifestmoreadmissions
19:11
im too lazy to provide the same level of detail as JB but I agree UTK seems like a better bet to actually achieve your career goals and set yourself up for success. I would understand being conflicted if it were like UTK vs Belmont or a lower ranked school that isn't considered predatory but because it's Elon that makes it more clear to me
thank you
the counterpoint bouncing around my head is basically "if i'm worth a damn, as i think i am, i'll be just fine no matter what the curve is" but you folks are nudging me in the direction of logic and common sense
manifestmoreadmissions
19:18
plenty of the people who fall behind are worth a damn it's just that some schools are basically set up to screw people over
yeah. fall behind as in....miss homework? can't keep up with readings? something else?
kinda nervous coming in as an untraditional guy around KJD's, billy madison vibes over here
19:21
Re: costs, it's worth looking at costs all around, both schools cost (net tuition, $0 at Elon/$30K over 3 years if you're in-state at UTK) PLUS three years not earning money or advancing in your career, which is worth 6 figures if you make decent money now. $30K in tuition is a small share of total costs in this comparison
19:24
"Fall behind" in this context means law school curves are rigid, no matter how hard everyone studies half the class will be below-median, 25% in the bottom quarter, etc. It's not super predictable either, so a student above GPA or LSAT median could still end up bottom half or 1/4 of the class
gotcha. predatory in that instance is certainly appropriate
manifestmoreadmissions
19:32
i am not kjd but im glad jb cleared that up for you lmao
19:32
And assuming similar class rank, UTK grads tend to do better in public data. Top students at UTK have a shot at biglaw (pays $225K), top students at Elon end up at small/medium firms (worse pay). Average students at UTK can get jobs at small/medium firms, average students at Elon are on the bubble for any firm job at all. Below-average students at UTK have a shot at firm jobs or other work, below-average students at Elon might not get jobs (or pass the bar, or avoid academic dismissal). That's the major advantage of well-regarded schools - more upside, less downside
manifestmoreadmissions
19:32
but yeah just reiterating that you could be worth so many damns and still not do well because its set up for that
19:37
(This is ignoring public service/government jobs, because the stats there don't tell us much about the type of job - "super competitive Department of Justice job in DC making $90K" and "local government job earning $50K" both get lumped together under the "public service" label, but say v. different things about a school's job placement
really appreciate all the insight
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