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Law School Tiers

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Tags: Choosing a Law School, Law School Tiers, Tier 1 Law Schools, Tier 2 Law Schools, Tier 3 Law Schools, Tier 4 Law Schools
May 13, 2024

Table of Contents

  1. Introduction
  2. What are the Tier 1 Law Schools?
  3. What are the Tier 2 Law Schools?
  4. What are the Tier 3 Law Schools?
  5. What are the Tier 4 Law Schools?
  6. Are there schools that don’t fall into the 4 Law School Tiers?
  7. Related Articles

Introduction to Law School Tiers

First an important note. There is no universally agreed upon neat chart that outlines each law school and their ‘tier.’ Instead, terms like “tier 1 law schools” or “tier 3 law schools” are general categorizations of law schools. These tiers typically originate from the USNews annual rankings of law schools.

Although law school tiers aren’t a hard and fast rule, the general idea of “tier 1 law schools,” “tier 2 law schools,” “tier 3 law schools,” or “tier 4 law schools” (typically people accept that there are 4 tiers) has caught on, and the idea has created a bit of a reinforcing circle.

So in this article I will try to breakdown the four tiers of law schools and identify some other things you should think about when considering if a law school is a “tier 1 law school.”

What are the Tier 1 Law Schools?

It is generally accepted that the Tier 1 Law Schools are the same as the T14 Law schools. 

T14 law schools are the schools that are consistently ranked between 1 and 14 by USNews. 

Traditionally the T14 schools are:

  1. Yale Law School (always #1)
  2. Stanford Law School (#2–3)
  3. Harvard Law School (#2–4)
  4. University of Chicago Law School (#3–5)
  5. Columbia Law School (#4–5)
  6. New York University School of Law (#5–6)
  7. University of California Berkeley Law School (#6–9)
  8. University of Pennsylvania Law School (#7–8)
  9. University of Virginia Law School (#7–10)
  10. University of Michigan Ann Arbor Law School (#7–10)
  11. Duke Law School (#10–11)
  12. Northwestern Law School (#10–12)
  13. Cornell Law School (#13–14)
  14. Georgetown Law School (#13–15)

Special mention: University of California-Los Angeles (UCLA) which sometimes pops up to #14. 

Some people/sites/reddit will expand the Tier 1 schools to cover any school ranked top-50 by USNews. This is usually a simplification made to simply break the ~200 law schools into equal groups of 50 i.e. Tier 1 Law schools = 1-50, Tier 2 Law Schools = 51-100, Tier 3 Law schools = 101 - 150, Tier 4 law schools = everything left.

Unsolicited recommendation from LSD: take advice from anyone who simplifies law school comparisons this much with a grain of salt. 

What are the Tier 2 Law Schools?

Going to a T14 school will let you work pretty much anywhere in the US and make BigLaw money, if you want to work BigLaw hours. However, about ⅔ of all law school graduates in ABA accredited law schools in the US end up working in the state where they graduated, so going anywhere in the country might not really matter.

There are schools that are lower ranked by USNews that have great employment outcomes and therefore could be considered Tier 1. However, it's a little harder to get a job anywhere in the country from these schools. This means that you can make BigLaw money, if you want to work BigLaw hours AND you don't mind sticking around in the state or region when you went to school.

Below are the schools that we consider tier 2 law schools because the students are getting top-tier, but typically local jobs. There are quite a few of these law schools and the above the law (ATL) rankings are a good spot to start. Any school that you see on ATL rankings that you don’t see on USNews T14 can safely be called a Tier 2 School. 

This means that the tier 2 law schools include:

  1. Vanderbilt University
  2. Washington University in St. Louis
  3. Northwestern University
  4. University of Texas at Austin
  5. University of Georgia
  6. University of Notre Dame
  7. University of Southern California
  8. University of Illinois—Urbana Champaign
  9. University of North Carolina
  10. Wake Forest University
  11. Brigham Young University
  12. University of California—Los Angeles*
  13. University of Florida (Levin)
  14. Boston College
  15. Washington and Lee University
  16. Stanford University
  17. University of Kansas
  18. University of Minnesota
  19. Georgetown University
  20. University of Iowa
  21. Boston University
  22. Villanova University
  23. University of Utah
  24. University of Kentucky
  25. Ohio State University
  26. University of Alabama
  27. University of Missouri
  28. Wayne State University
  29. University of Houston
  30. Florida State University
  31. Texas A&M University
  32. University of Tennessee
  33. University of Wisconsin
  34. Drexel University

So a safe understanding of Tier 2 Law schools is the schools with great outcomes that USNews doesn’t recognize as T14. 

What are the Tier 3 Law Schools?

Tier 3 Law schools are generally all of the other law schools that USNews takes the effort to individually rank. These tend to change year over year quite a bit. The best way to determine an actual list is to look at the USNews rankings for any law school that is ranked better than the bottom mass grouping. In the 2022 law school rankings this tier 3 grouping includes any school not listed by name in tier 1 and tier 2 law schools that was ranked 146 or above by USNews. 

So, what are the Tier 3 Law schools? Honestly, there are about 100 so there are too many to list. However, if you look at the LSD rankings you can just look for any school that we haven't mentioned in the previous two tiers that is ranked 146 or better.   

What are the Tier 4 Law Schools?

Tier 4 Law schools are every school that we haven’t mentioned yet that has been accredited by the ABA. USNews includes some of these schools in their rankings in a big group (147-192) and doesn’t rank others. You could argue that USNews unranked law schools are worse than those that USNews ranks 147-192, but most likely the benefit is marginal. Our belief is that the important distinction comes down to: ABA accredited or not.  

Are there schools that don’t fall into the 4 Law School Tiers?

In short, yes. Schools that are not ABA accredited do not fall into these 4 tiers of law schools. I would consider any law school that is not ABA accredited below any tier-4 law school. Anyone attending a non-accredited law school should question if they are getting their money’s worth before paying money to go.

Final word on Law School Tiers.

We broke down the value of USNews rankings in an article already. Bottom line on USNews ranking helpfulness is “Ehhhhhh.” Therefore, the value of ‘law school tiers’ is the same. Sure it is easy to look at 4 groups instead of all schools. But in reality, each school has its own incoming and outgoing class profile, that you should consider before you paying tuition to that law school. 

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I am the half of LSD that didn't take the LSAT, or go to law school (Sorry about that). But I did go to MIT business school while surrounded by law students and lawyers, so I am somewhat qualified to talk about the intricacies of law school apps and finances.

Windsor (the dog) didn't write this but he WAS a Resident Tutor and career advisor at Harvard College with me, so deserves some credit.

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18:38
Depending on your stats the answer could also be option C, reapply next year for >50% at Tennessee/substantial $ at other good schools (most spend their scholarship budget by June 30th), but that depends on your situation and goals
18:39
Standardized info on curves is harder to find, but this says Elon curves to a 2.67 which is downright predatory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_school_GPA_curves
appreciate it. i am well removed from undergrad and am pushing through for this year. have significant business experience and want to do corporate law and/or property. not educated on the curve and how that works, will look into that
questioning whether i go to school for free at a lesser school or pay some out of pocket at a better name for the same degree at end of the day, the numbers don't lie
18:54
@DisillusionedHomelessWalnut: The way the curve works is a below-median student at Tennessee (curves to a 3.1, so B/B+) can end up with a better GPA than an above-average student at Elon (curves to a 2.67/B-minus), so the student from Tennessee will have a better transcript *and* get better jobs on average than someone with the same class rank at Elon
18:56
Your real alarm bell is Elon's curve (linked here, p. 70 https://eloncdn.blob.core.windows.net/eu3/sites/996/2019/07/2017-2018_Academic_Catalog-and-Student_Handbook.pdf) *requires* profs to give 20% of first-year students a C-minus or worse, when the school's bar for "satisfactory academic progress" is a C+ average
ooooffff. thanks. i mean, full ride is cool and all, but damn
18:59
The only scenario where a school does something like that (curve to a 2.67, dismiss students below 2.25) is when they're admitting a lot of students who may not pass the bar, then flunking people out mercilessly so the school can keep its accreditation (ABA requires 75% of grads to pass the bar within two years, can't fail the bar if the school doesn't let you graduate)
the dean told me "no students had their scholarships reduced in the past three years, and to my recollection only one scholarship in 19 years has been reduced when a student was in good standing"
yeah, i get that and appreciate you validating that point. i like to think it really wouldn't apply to me and assume it happens due to the lower standards of admissions they utilize, but is it (full ride) worth the risk? that's the fly in the ointment
just trying to weigh all angles, seems like just biting the bullet and paying the modest amount to UTK is a smarter decision
end of cycle is for the birds, but i'm playing the hand i was dealt :)
19:06
In general you are going to be better off at a school that wants its students to succeed. UTK seems to fit the description - they are not in any danger of losing their accreditation, don't need to force people out. Elon very much does not, if their bar passage drops 2% they'll be in violation of ABA requirements so they won't give students any leway
19:06
*leeway
i appreciate your insight, friend
manifestmoreadmissions
19:11
im too lazy to provide the same level of detail as JB but I agree UTK seems like a better bet to actually achieve your career goals and set yourself up for success. I would understand being conflicted if it were like UTK vs Belmont or a lower ranked school that isn't considered predatory but because it's Elon that makes it more clear to me
thank you
the counterpoint bouncing around my head is basically "if i'm worth a damn, as i think i am, i'll be just fine no matter what the curve is" but you folks are nudging me in the direction of logic and common sense
manifestmoreadmissions
19:18
plenty of the people who fall behind are worth a damn it's just that some schools are basically set up to screw people over
yeah. fall behind as in....miss homework? can't keep up with readings? something else?
kinda nervous coming in as an untraditional guy around KJD's, billy madison vibes over here
19:21
Re: costs, it's worth looking at costs all around, both schools cost (net tuition, $0 at Elon/$30K over 3 years if you're in-state at UTK) PLUS three years not earning money or advancing in your career, which is worth 6 figures if you make decent money now. $30K in tuition is a small share of total costs in this comparison
19:24
"Fall behind" in this context means law school curves are rigid, no matter how hard everyone studies half the class will be below-median, 25% in the bottom quarter, etc. It's not super predictable either, so a student above GPA or LSAT median could still end up bottom half or 1/4 of the class
gotcha. predatory in that instance is certainly appropriate
manifestmoreadmissions
19:32
i am not kjd but im glad jb cleared that up for you lmao
19:32
And assuming similar class rank, UTK grads tend to do better in public data. Top students at UTK have a shot at biglaw (pays $225K), top students at Elon end up at small/medium firms (worse pay). Average students at UTK can get jobs at small/medium firms, average students at Elon are on the bubble for any firm job at all. Below-average students at UTK have a shot at firm jobs or other work, below-average students at Elon might not get jobs (or pass the bar, or avoid academic dismissal). That's the major advantage of well-regarded schools - more upside, less downside
manifestmoreadmissions
19:32
but yeah just reiterating that you could be worth so many damns and still not do well because its set up for that
19:37
(This is ignoring public service/government jobs, because the stats there don't tell us much about the type of job - "super competitive Department of Justice job in DC making $90K" and "local government job earning $50K" both get lumped together under the "public service" label, but say v. different things about a school's job placement
really appreciate all the insight
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