Pennsylvania State - Dickinson Law

LSData Percentiles	25	50	75
LSAT	158	162	166
GPA	3.16	3.46	3.75

LSData Averages	Rejected	All	Accepted
LSAT	156	162	163
GPA	2.85	3.42	3.5
Softs	Tier 3.0	Tier 3.22	Tier 3.09
Scholarship	-	-	$139,889

Miscellaneous
Days from sent to decision	20
Days from UR to decision	1
Interview invite rate	-
Interview conversion rate	-
URM LSAT differential	-5.59
URM GPA differential	-0.1

AltruisticChaosSquirrel

13:48

I think getting an II post-UR2 is rare so we are already in uncharted territory

AltruisticChaosSquirrel

13:48

So maybe it is standard procedure to review us a third time??

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

14:02

My Cornell update today was Interview Received

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

14:03

Sent the Kira Friday

AltruisticChaosSquirrel

14:05

Did you get the II post-UR1 or UR2?

HissingAbhorrentLobster

14:05

Not me refreshing my checker every 2 seconds.. ugh. The wait is the WORST

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

14:08

UR2

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

14:08

UR1 for 10 days, II 3 days after UR2, today changed to interview received

SecurityMatters

14:18

@HissingAbhorrentLobster: same tho

JakeG

14:18

NU status checker down for anyone else?

davidtrott99

14:21

it was for me but then i just closed out of it and went back in and it was fine

davidtrott99

14:21

probably just buggy

JakeG

14:33

Ah, it's working now. I think it was just down for a bit.

Nsqui

14:41

Still haven't gotten a response from Cornell about my missing Kira registration

Nsqui

14:41

Dunno if i should send another email or not

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

14:42

Id email again

ForTheShoe

14:44

Is profile private? Can someone confirm

ForTheShoe

14:44

my

AltruisticChaosSquirrel

14:44

Your... Missing KIRA registration?

imtoodumbforthis

14:44

@ForTheShoe: You're private!

ForTheShoe

14:44

@imtoodumbforthis: Thanks!

NO6300

14:45

praying for a OSU, GW or Villanova wave soon

ForTheShoe

14:45

I think Villanova is only doing ED apps rn and wont respond to RD until December

Nsqui

14:50

@AltruisticChaosSquirrel: I got an interview invite with status checker update, received the email from Cornell, but never got the email from Kira Talent to access the system and do the interview

TroutLawyer

14:52

If anyone wants a completely free application Texas A&M will give you a CAS waiver if you just ask

pilkyboids

14:53

its been 12 days since I was accepted somewhere and I still don't have anything in the mail

KilgoreTrout21

14:57

Does anyone who has applied to Vanderbilt have any insight on the "Optional Video Essay" found in their status checker? Is this something applicants regularly do? Did any of you do it/not do it?

JakeG

14:58

I'm not doing it

JakeG

14:59

I don't know if it's KIRA, but it sounds like KIRA

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

14:59

I asked for alumni interview

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

14:59

for vandy

AltruisticChaosSquirrel

15:07

The video interview gives you three tries to answer a paraphrased "introduce yourself + why Vandy"

ceciliad

15:07

i think they tell you to do the video essay if you are applying for specific scholarships

AltruisticChaosSquirrel

15:11

Or if you are too late for the alumni interview

SpicyMushyEel

15:13

I just went application review complete at Cornell, any idea when I get a result email?

LuckyQuickestChicken

15:14

Application complete notification at FSU after 15 days

SpicyMushyEel

15:17

anyone have any idea what "application review complete" means at Cornell guys

JakeG

15:18

Congrats

JakeG

15:19

According to reddit that means you're in

SpicyMushyEel

15:20

I saw that, I can't believe it to be honest, I hope its true, all the posts were from 3 years ago

JakeG

15:20

Did you interview?

SpicyMushyEel

15:20

yes

TroutLawyer

15:21

definitely a good sign at the minimum

SpicyMushyEel

15:21

on 9/28

JakeG

15:24

What time does UMich's status checker refresh? Mine still says 10/21

JakeG

15:24

Oh nvm I think that's just last change to file

JoyousCeruleanHummingbird

15:33

@SpicyMushyEel: yeah that's an A friend

JoyousCeruleanHummingbird

15:34

congrats!

SpicyMushyEel

15:35

I just got the email, thanks guys. I'm so grateful, hopefully its a great cycle for us all

JakeG

15:35

grats, what was your timeline?

abjectchickadee

15:35

congrats!!

abjectchickadee

15:36

also, y'all are getting mich status date changes?

LexLaw224

15:36

I havent had any changes since I applied to Mich

abjectchickadee

15:36

my date is still 9/10, which i assume is my complete date

nontraditional-semisplitter

15:37

Same

LexLaw224

15:37

same here

LexLaw224

15:37

idk if they've even really started

JakeG

15:37

Yeah the date changes when you get an update and their "Complete" is UR

SpicyMushyEel

15:37

@JakeG: II 9/28, Interview received 10/4, 10/25 I got the email

JakeG

15:37

So you won't get an update until a decision is made

TroutLawyer

15:38

when I talked to their rep at LSAC forum they said they were only doing ED first before moving onto RD applicants

TroutLawyer

15:38

Same at the UC's

LexLaw224

15:38

@SpicyMushyEel: do mind sharing stats? Congrats btw

abjectchickadee

15:39

ah i was thinking about last cycle when i think people got date changes after going complete at mich? not sure if that's been happening for other people this cycle too

SpicyMushyEel

15:39

@LexLaw224: you can look me up by searching my name in Cornell's graphs and data on lsdata but I have a 4.29, 171

TroutLawyer

15:39

4.29!

abjectchickadee

15:40

whew that gpa

JakeG

15:40

Cornell 171 median confirmed

SpicyMushyEel

15:40

yea I was lucky my school had A+

LexLaw224

15:40

mine didnt and had A-

LexLaw224

15:40

tragic

TroutLawyer

15:41

I'd do disgusting things to have a 4.29

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

15:42

Incredible SpicyMushyEel!!! Congrats!!!

TroutLawyer

15:42

Congrats tho that's a lot of dedication!!

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

15:42

Thats awesome Cornell is a killer school

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

15:42

Ithaca is lovely dont listen to the haters

SpicyMushyEel

15:42

Thanks a lot everyone!!! :D

CorporateCatastrophe

15:51

Will never understand LSAC's 4.33 stance. Absolutely absurd

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

15:52

it is dumb imo

LexLaw224

15:52

do you guys think that they take into account what kind of school you came from for GPA

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

15:52

The fact that a majority of students literally can't go over a 4.0 is reason enough for it to not make sense

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

15:53

no not really

LexLaw224

15:53

That sucks lol

TroutLawyer

15:53

No schools just wanna boost that USNWR

LexLaw224

15:53

I always hoped haha

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

15:53

idk why they would

CorporateCatastrophe

15:53

The only thing they look at is what your GPA is. So the fact that some people are on a 4.33 scale and others 4.0 is ridiculous

LexLaw224

15:53

I mean some schools are obviously harder than others

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

15:53

Unless you went to like Princeton, Yale, or Harvard

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

15:53

but even then

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

15:53

a 2.0 from harvard is worse off than a 4.0 from a state school

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

15:54

even a 3.5 probably

CorporateCatastrophe

15:54

absolutely, and its not close. GPA is everything.

CorporateCatastrophe

15:54

I'd take a 4.0 at a state school over probably even a 3.85 from a state school

CorporateCatastrophe

15:54

from harvard*

LexLaw224

15:54

that's insane

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

15:54

yeah exactly because there is no reason for them not

TroutLawyer

15:54

yeah there's grade inflation everywhere

LexLaw224

15:54

obviously I should have just picked an easy undergrad then lolol

CorporateCatastrophe

15:55

Schools dont report the schools applicants come from. They report the GPA. And thats everything

CorporateCatastrophe

15:55

If I know anyone in highschool interested in law, I tell them to go to the easiest 4.33 school they can find

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

15:55

Well the term 'easy' is entirely relative

LexLaw224

15:55

I mean not really

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

15:55

it definitely is

LexLaw224

15:55

some schools are obviously harder than others

CorporateCatastrophe

15:55

School and major

LexLaw224

15:55

and some majors as well

TroutLawyer

15:55

Yeah major matters more than school

LexLaw224

15:55

like I was a math major and def could have gotten by easier with english

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

15:56

but its based entirely on individual aptitude

TroutLawyer

15:56

Like if you go to a Big state school and do engineering good luck getting 3.5 or above

CorporateCatastrophe

15:56

Aptitude is less important when you have a .33 cushion to work with

CorporateCatastrophe

15:56

literally 1 B on a 4.00 and youre (somewhat) screwed.

CorporateCatastrophe

15:56

4.33 can fix that

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

15:57

yeah I got a B- and a B+ and I will never crack above a 3.9

CorporateCatastrophe

15:57

I will literally never understand LSAC's position on 4.33 grades. I've tried to. I can't/

LexLaw224

15:57

agreed

CorporateCatastrophe

15:58

I'd love to grill them on it. I'd love an actual explanation on how that's not egregiously unfair

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

15:58

GPA is secondary to LSAT for a reason I guess

CorporateCatastrophe

15:58

given how important GPA reporting is

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

15:59

The annoying thing is that most of my A's would be considered A+ at schools that have them so I would likely have over a 4.0 at another school

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

15:59

like almost all of them are 97+

LexLaw224

16:00

yeah same here, my school didnt have them

ForTheShoe

16:03

how do you search solely for ED apps

Unamused

16:04

^I don't think you can

ForTheShoe

16:05

Damn someone on reddit said it was possible. I didnt think so either

ForTheShoe

16:05

You can only do that at LawSchoolNumbers right?

JoyousCeruleanHummingbird

16:11

Looks like UVA is having a smol ewave

MeatyBelligerentFrog

16:13

Got the WL at UVA, second time in a year

MeatyBelligerentFrog

16:13

Sigh...

JoyousCeruleanHummingbird

16:13

I'm sorry friend :( that's particularly rough as the first decision of the cycle

StandUnderNone

16:18

sorry to hear it :( with that lsat it's their loss!!

StormyMaddeningSkater

16:21

Below both medians at UVA was expecting a rejection but still hurts. Got it today.

MeatyBelligerentFrog

16:21

Hugs stormy. Gotta shoot your shot

JoyousCeruleanHummingbird

16:23

@StormyMaddeningSkater: i'm sorry friend. better decisions are coming your way ❤️, try not to let this decision color your expectations for the cycle. Just because one school doesn't bite doesn't mean others won't snatch you up and shower you in scholly $! 💕

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

16:29

can NYLS stop with the emails oml

JakeG

16:29

"Sorry we missed you!"

JakeG

16:30

I'm not.

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

16:34

same *unsubscribed*

ChocolateChipCharlie

16:35

Unsubscribed this morning

AltruisticChaosSquirrel

16:37

You can! You can search early decision in each school's graph

legallysandyblonde

16:44

We haven't seen any action from NYU and Columbia yet right?

Hamotron

16:46

Nope

JoyousCeruleanHummingbird

16:46

no, likely no action from NYU until at least November, none from CLS until probably January

GrotesqueAbsorbingUrchin

16:49

why have I been UR2 at UVA since 9/12

GrotesqueAbsorbingUrchin

16:50

anyone else?

GrotesqueAbsorbingUrchin

16:50

seems like everyone else with that date already got a decison

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

16:51

UVA E wave going on right now

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

16:51

Everyone be safe

ereditaculturale

16:51

i havent really seen movement from any nyc schools to be honest which is a bummer :(

GrotesqueAbsorbingUrchin

16:52

does the status checker change if they WL or R you at UVA?

Casecloser

16:52

my GULC alum interview was a few weeks ago and its crickets on my end

HeavenlySereneDeer

16:58

i want a gulc interview

HeavenlySereneDeer

16:59

i just did my vandy interview this morning

Hamotron

17:05

@GrotesqueAbsorbingUrchin: mine did

AltruisticChaosSquirrel

17:13

CLS hasn't even sent fee waivers yet

ereditaculturale

17:15

they also don't tell you when you are UR - they mark your app as complete and then you wont hear from them until they give you a decision

ereditaculturale

17:16

unless they give you an interview but that seems to be relatively uncommon

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

17:16

I went complete at SMU, do you think I will get admitted in like 2 days

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

17:16

hehe

10000rats

17:16

is it still possible for CLS to send fee waivers?

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

17:23

@10000rats: yea

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

17:23

Does anyones UCLA status checker have grey bar?

InnateTightfistedMandrill

17:26

Like above the profile box?

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

17:28

yea

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

17:29

I dont see any status just gray bar above profie

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

17:29

profile***

InnateTightfistedMandrill

17:33

Yea I do, not sure if it means anything

TroutLawyer

17:37

@10000rats: great name (you always have to pick the rats) and yeah CLS didn't send fee waivers til Halloween last year lol

JoyousCeruleanHummingbird

17:45

we need some A waveesss

JoyousCeruleanHummingbird

17:45

༼つ ◕_◕༽つ G I V E⭐A⭐W A V E ༼つ ◕_◕༽つ

10000rats

17:49

@TroutLawyer: thanks boo <3

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

17:50

༼つ ◕_◕༽つ G I V E⭐A⭐W A V E ༼つ ◕_◕༽つ

Blarghblawlaw

17:50

༼つ ◕_◕༽つ G I V E⭐A⭐W A V E ༼つ ◕_◕༽つ

oolongmilktea22

17:51

༼つ ◕_◕༽つ G I V E⭐A⭐W A V E ༼つ ◕_◕༽つ

Lost-In-The-Sauce

17:51

UVA strikes again

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

17:54

welp I sent UH my c&f documentation that consists of my freshman year noise complaint and the speeding ticket from when I was 16

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

17:54

Doxxed myself lmao

FutureRockyMountainLawyer

17:58

the fact that UF's 75th percentile LSAT is 169 breaks my heart

SerbianKitty

18:34

A decision from Northeastern :O

KayleeJS

18:35

Can you look at stats for early decision at schools?

MeatyBelligerentFrog

18:40

Anyone else go red for BU? They changed their sentences from 2 spaces after a period to 1

RabidDuckweed

18:45

Everybody send me good vibes, I was WLed and rejected by everyone last year bc I applied too late and I really need acceptances

AltruisticChaosSquirrel

18:47

you can search "early decision" in the chart area of each school @kayleeJS

[A] cryptanon

18:56

ED search is on my todo list but i have a ton of other stuff to get through. is the ED filter something a lot of people want?

nycbased004556

18:58

@cryptanon: hey crypt! Sorry if this was mentioned earlier (I just got into the chat) but I'm having trouble with the "Add school" button, wasn't sure if anyone else had the same issue

nycbased004556

18:59

Obviously no sweat and doesn't affect me at all just wanted to give you a heads up if you hadn't heard/seen that yet

JakeG

19:08

ED search is meh

AnywhereThatGivesMeMoney

19:26

Just got in at ASU with $$$$

cryptanon

19:38

@nycbased004556: haven't heard that, can you say more about the issue?