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cum satis furore ipso puniatur

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A quick definition of cum satis furore ipso puniatur:

Term: CUM SATIS FURORE IPSO PUNIATUR

Definition: This Latin phrase means that if someone is punished enough by their own insanity, they cannot be held responsible for their actions. It was used as a principle to determine if an insane person should be held criminally responsible for their behavior. This idea eventually led to the modern insanity defense.

A more thorough explanation:

Definition: Cum satis furore ipso puniatur is a Latin phrase that means "since he is sufficiently punished by the insanity itself." This phrase was used historically in reference to the principle that an insane person is not criminally responsible for their actions. It was a precursor to the modern insanity defense.

One example of the use of cum satis furore ipso puniatur is in the case of John Hinckley Jr., who attempted to assassinate President Ronald Reagan in 1981. Hinckley was found not guilty by reason of insanity, as he was suffering from a mental illness at the time of the crime. The court determined that he was sufficiently punished by his mental illness and did not need to face criminal charges.

Another example is the case of Andrea Yates, who drowned her five children in a bathtub in 2001. Yates was also found not guilty by reason of insanity, as she was suffering from severe postpartum depression and psychosis at the time of the crime. The court determined that she was sufficiently punished by her mental illness and did not need to face criminal charges.

These examples illustrate the principle of cum satis furore ipso puniatur, which recognizes that individuals who commit crimes while suffering from a mental illness should not be held criminally responsible for their actions. Instead, they should receive treatment for their illness and be considered "sufficiently punished" by the effects of their mental illness.

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NosyBeagle
19:28
Do tell
i had to drop out of a grad program but i explained it in my gpa addendum bc it was the same underlying event causing both
i was also named in a civil lawsuit that got dismissed but only one school asked about it
sorry probably not helpful
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
19:58
idk what the situations are, but you absolutely should write about them if the school asks about them—the only time you should be asking *whether* to write one is when you're not sure whether your situation qualifies as what they're asking about
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
19:59
better question is usually *how* to write about them
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
20:00
I had to write about write
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
20:01
... write-ups at work (petty, and they were removed from my file after a year, but even so the app asked so I wrote)
NosyBeagle
20:05
Ah it cancelled out my msg cus I switched tabs. But I’ll just tell you guys cus I get mixed answers: a) accused of cheating on a calc exam freshman year but was cleared of wrongdoing, b) sent to the hospital senior year because I go too drunk
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
20:12
Seems like you'd need to write about A because it went through a formal process, but it shouldn't hurt you if you explain it straightforwardly and explain you were cleared (just don't be weirdly salty about it like you're holding a grudge)
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
20:12
Re B, did this involve school in any way? Is there an app that has a C&F question that you think this applies to?
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
20:13
Maybe you're not deep enough into the process to know this—each school has its own unique set of C&F questions, so you should disclose exactly what they ask about, no more, no less
NosyBeagle
20:14
OH
NosyBeagle
20:14
Ok why did I think it was just gonna be one type of q for all. My bad folks. Ignore my info dump
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
20:16
No worries! Frankly I think it's wild that applications have weird hidden quirks that you don't know about until you're actually logged into LSAC working through the app. There's some info you can find about the oddball/unique questions you'll find on specific apps, so you might want to look for that for schools you're going to apply to
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
20:17
Like on various consultants' blogs, reddit, etc
NosyBeagle
20:17
🫡 thank you good sir or ma’am or bam
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
20:17
Ooh can I be a bam
NosyBeagle
20:39
You may
20:45
ima write my personal statement about being fired and how that made me want to do law but it would be funny if I also had to write an addendum about it
20:45
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ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
21:02
I wrote optional essays about a situation that affected my undergrad performance. For any school that required an "education gap addendum" I was basically like "pls see my optional essay"
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
21:02
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NosyBeagle
21:12
did they accept that?
NosyBeagle
21:12
that reminds me of filling out job apps and they want you to type out your resume in a text box. like huh??? open the pdf, idiots
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
21:18
I mean I was nicer about it—I'd put a couple of sentences explaining it super lo-res, and then I said something like "I speak to this situation in detail in my optional essay."
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
21:20
They don't send your application back to you and tell you to redo an addendum if they don't like it, so the only way to know whether they "accepted" it, as it were, is admissions results
Bettercaulsaul
22:28
Helpful video I found https://youtu.be/2ZVrX6DTSKU?si=KsZeWbF4_fJuqKl5
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