i think a big disconnect for a lot of men is not feeling like they have power in their own life. so they are not empathetic for the position women are in. but just because you don’t feel much better doesn’t mean they don’t objectively have it worse
Dkk
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@windyMagician: thats not necessarily more power. That could be more responsibility and agency. It really is neutral though.
I think that the position dk is arguing for vis a vis history and power dynamics is pretty unsustainable, but is this closer to what you’re talking about dk:
I gotta go work a shift, but I will conclude by saying that men had the power: a woman *could* ask her husband to vote for X or make Y decision, but he didn't have to obey and in fact, because women couldn't own property and the legal system prevented them from being self-sufficient, their words meant little. Ultimately, it was up to what he wanted; she didn't have other alternatives.
@soap: and if he made the wrong choice he would lose her through conquest. He only had responsibility. All power lied in her and she could be taken away from him.