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A quick definition of third-party beneficiary:

A third-party beneficiary is someone who can get benefits from a contract even though they didn't sign it. The people who signed the contract are called the promisor and promisee. The promisor makes promises to benefit the third-party beneficiary, and the promisee pays for those promises. There are two types of third-party beneficiaries: intended and incidental. Intended beneficiaries are people who the promisor and promisee meant to benefit, either as a gift (donee) or to pay off a debt (creditor). Incidental beneficiaries are people who happen to get benefits but weren't meant to. The third-party beneficiary can only enforce the contract if their rights have vested, which means they know about the contract and have agreed to it or relied on it. Once their rights have vested, they can sue the promisor for not keeping their promises. The promisor can defend themselves by saying the promisee didn't keep their promises. The promisee can only be sued if the third-party beneficiary relied on their promises.

A more thorough explanation:

A third-party beneficiary is someone who is not a part of a contract but can still benefit from it. The people who make the contract are called the promisor and promisee. The promisor makes promises to benefit the third-party beneficiary, while the promisee pays for those promises. For example, if a mother buys medical insurance for her son, the mother is the promisee, the son is the third-party beneficiary, and the insurance company is the promisor.

There are two types of third-party beneficiaries: intended and incidental. An intended beneficiary is someone who the contracting parties meant to benefit. There are two types of intended beneficiaries: donee and creditor. A donee beneficiary is someone who the promisee intends to benefit without asking for anything in return. A creditor beneficiary is someone who the promisee owes money to, and the promisor pays that debt. An incidental beneficiary is someone who benefits from the contract but was not meant to.

The third-party beneficiary's rights are not enforceable until they are vested. Vesting happens when the beneficiary knows about the promise and either agrees to it, sues to enforce it, or relies on it. Once vested, the beneficiary can sue the promisor for breach of contract. The promisor can defend themselves by saying that the promisee did not fulfill their part of the contract. The beneficiary cannot sue the promisee unless they relied on the promise.

For example, if a father promises to pay for his daughter's college tuition, and the daughter knows about the promise and relies on it, her rights are vested. If the father does not pay for her tuition, she can sue him for breach of contract. The father can defend himself by saying that the daughter did not fulfill her part of the contract, such as not maintaining good grades.

The contracting parties can modify or rescind the contract if the beneficiary's rights have not vested. Once vested, the contract cannot be changed without the beneficiary's consent.

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KnowledgeableRitzyWasp
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@Silver: if you want to practice in IL then there’s likely no better school than the in state schools
@SpectacularDefiantMouse: yeah, like condemnedpuffygnome, I'm not really preparing for law school by taking some courses or anything like that. The only way I'm going to be preparing is by getting myself into a rhythm schedule-wise, well enough in advance of the first day of classes, that I think will be necessary for me to do well 1L.
I'm very much not in rhythm now. lol. But I've 3-ish months.
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@Silver: Cost of attendance is what matters. $37K in-state tuition = $47K sticker price with a $10K scholarship elsewhere, $70K sticker with a $40K scholarship is better than either, $40K sticker with a $0 scholarship worse than both.
19:55
(Assuming placement etc. is comparable)
Congrats on Harvard, jb2028. Any reason you applied to A&M but not Texas at Austin? Seems odd.
19:58
@BankruptcyAndRestructuringLawIsCool: Family connection, they gave me a CAS waiver so it was free
Question for the chat about judicial internships (not externships). My understanding is that judicial internships (as opposed to externships) during the summer are unpaid. How, then, do people who get them pay living expenses during the summer? Do they just make loans stretch for 12 months when they're only meant for 9? I heard that some people supplement the internship with, e.g., a research assistant position with a law professor. But would such a person both do the internship and the RA position at the same time? And if so, is that too much work or feasible?
I don't know what the workload is really like for judicial internships and RA positions.
Also curious what other things people might do to supplement an unpaid judicial internship over the summer with something paid.
20:20
@BankruptcyAndRestructuringLawIsCool: Many schools will provide some type of stipend for unpaid summer roles with a public interest employer (defined broadly, often includes any gov or judicial job)
Right, I thought so. At BU, though, it appears that what's called BU's public interest project grant is not available to supplement judicial internships. And I think its public service summer funding is also limited. Oh well.
21:13
@BankruptcyAndRestructuringLawIsCool: FWIW they allude to some type of funding ("BU Law has implemented separate funding sources for judicial interns") in this packet https://www.bu.edu/law/files/2023/11/Public-Service-Summer-Funding-Applicant-Packet-2024.pdf
21:13
Although they don't give details, and as you note they don't guarantee funding to everyone (which is in line with other $ they offer, e.g. the LRAP)
21:14
Anyone know how hard it is to do pro bono work as a 1L for judges or fed gov in general in the D.C. market
21:14
Idk much about pro bono opportunities period but thinking I wanna try to get some work experience as soon as humanly possible
21:14
When I begin law school I mean
21:15
Lines up with BU's limited endowment: $81K per student a few years ago, i.e., enough to support a payout of about $3,250 per student per year at a 4% payout rate https://leiterlawschool.typepad.com/leiter/2022/05/per-student-value-of-law-school-endowments-2021.html
21:17
Seems like they're trying to compete with other schools on program headlines (we fund X, Y, and Z and we have an LRAP) but the endowment can't really support that, so they have all these programs but don't guarantee funding. Would not rely on that if you have alternatives.
Thanks for those links. I'll give the public service summer funding information packet, in particular, a careful read. But yeah, your takeaway seems right.
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or korean with gochujang
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Where I can find the definition of the false-endowment?
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