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Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN)

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A quick definition of Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN):

An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) is a special nine-digit number that the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) gives to people who cannot get a Social Security number (SSN). This includes foreign nationals and undocumented immigrants. The ITIN helps these people pay their federal taxes. However, having an ITIN does not give a person immigration status or let them work in the U.S. An ITIN can also be used to open a bank account or get a mortgage. To get an ITIN, a person must fill out a form and show proof of identity and residency. The ITIN will expire if the person does not file taxes for three years, but it can be renewed.

A more thorough explanation:

An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) is a unique nine-digit number assigned by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to individuals who are not eligible to obtain a Social Security number (SSN). This includes foreign nationals and undocumented immigrants who need to pay federal taxes. However, an ITIN does not provide a person with immigration status, work authorization, or eligibility for social security benefits.

For example, if a nonresident alien is required to file a U.S. tax return, they can apply for an ITIN to fulfill their tax obligations.

To apply for an ITIN, a person must meet three requirements:

  • Not eligible to obtain an SSN
  • Required to furnish a federal tax identification number or file a federal tax return
  • Belong to one of the eligible groups, such as nonresident aliens, U.S. resident aliens, or dependents/spouses of U.S. citizens/resident aliens

To apply for an ITIN, a person must fill out and submit a Form W-7 along with their federal income tax return, proof of identity, foreign nationality status, and residency. They can apply by mail, in person at an IRS Taxpayer Assistance Center, or with the help of an Acceptance Agent or Certified Acceptance Agent authorized by the IRS.

An ITIN will expire if its holder does not file a tax return for three consecutive years. However, it can be renewed by submitting a renewal application to the IRS.

Overall, an ITIN is a way for individuals who are not eligible for an SSN to fulfill their federal tax obligations.

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KnowledgeableRitzyWasp
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@Silver: if you want to practice in IL then there’s likely no better school than the in state schools
@SpectacularDefiantMouse: yeah, like condemnedpuffygnome, I'm not really preparing for law school by taking some courses or anything like that. The only way I'm going to be preparing is by getting myself into a rhythm schedule-wise, well enough in advance of the first day of classes, that I think will be necessary for me to do well 1L.
I'm very much not in rhythm now. lol. But I've 3-ish months.
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@Silver: Cost of attendance is what matters. $37K in-state tuition = $47K sticker price with a $10K scholarship elsewhere, $70K sticker with a $40K scholarship is better than either, $40K sticker with a $0 scholarship worse than both.
19:55
(Assuming placement etc. is comparable)
Congrats on Harvard, jb2028. Any reason you applied to A&M but not Texas at Austin? Seems odd.
19:58
@BankruptcyAndRestructuringLawIsCool: Family connection, they gave me a CAS waiver so it was free
Question for the chat about judicial internships (not externships). My understanding is that judicial internships (as opposed to externships) during the summer are unpaid. How, then, do people who get them pay living expenses during the summer? Do they just make loans stretch for 12 months when they're only meant for 9? I heard that some people supplement the internship with, e.g., a research assistant position with a law professor. But would such a person both do the internship and the RA position at the same time? And if so, is that too much work or feasible?
I don't know what the workload is really like for judicial internships and RA positions.
Also curious what other things people might do to supplement an unpaid judicial internship over the summer with something paid.
20:20
@BankruptcyAndRestructuringLawIsCool: Many schools will provide some type of stipend for unpaid summer roles with a public interest employer (defined broadly, often includes any gov or judicial job)
Right, I thought so. At BU, though, it appears that what's called BU's public interest project grant is not available to supplement judicial internships. And I think its public service summer funding is also limited. Oh well.
21:13
@BankruptcyAndRestructuringLawIsCool: FWIW they allude to some type of funding ("BU Law has implemented separate funding sources for judicial interns") in this packet https://www.bu.edu/law/files/2023/11/Public-Service-Summer-Funding-Applicant-Packet-2024.pdf
21:13
Although they don't give details, and as you note they don't guarantee funding to everyone (which is in line with other $ they offer, e.g. the LRAP)
21:14
Anyone know how hard it is to do pro bono work as a 1L for judges or fed gov in general in the D.C. market
21:14
Idk much about pro bono opportunities period but thinking I wanna try to get some work experience as soon as humanly possible
21:14
When I begin law school I mean
21:15
Lines up with BU's limited endowment: $81K per student a few years ago, i.e., enough to support a payout of about $3,250 per student per year at a 4% payout rate https://leiterlawschool.typepad.com/leiter/2022/05/per-student-value-of-law-school-endowments-2021.html
21:17
Seems like they're trying to compete with other schools on program headlines (we fund X, Y, and Z and we have an LRAP) but the endowment can't really support that, so they have all these programs but don't guarantee funding. Would not rely on that if you have alternatives.
Thanks for those links. I'll give the public service summer funding information packet, in particular, a careful read. But yeah, your takeaway seems right.
KnowledgeableRitzyWasp
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kfc or popeyes
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22:34
or korean with gochujang
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Where I can find the definition of the false-endowment?
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