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A quick definition of attempt:

An attempt is when someone tries to do something illegal, even if they don't finish it. They can still be charged with the crime they tried to commit. To prove an attempt, the person must have gone beyond just thinking about it or preparing for it. In some places, they must have intended to commit the crime and had the ability to do it right away. In other places, they only need to have taken a big enough step towards committing the crime to show their intent. For example, buying a gun and practicing shooting could be enough to show an attempt to assault someone.

A more thorough explanation:

An attempt is when someone tries to commit a crime but doesn't succeed. Even if they don't finish the crime, they can still be charged with an attempt. This is called an inchoate offense. To be found guilty of an attempted crime, the person must have crossed the line from just thinking about it to taking some kind of action towards committing the crime.

The requirements for proving an attempt vary depending on the laws of the jurisdiction. In some places, the person must have had a specific intent to commit the crime and had the power to do it almost immediately. In other places, a "substantial step" towards the crime is enough to prove an attempt.

For example, in People v. Rizzo, a group of men planned to rob someone but never found the person. They couldn't be found guilty of attempted robbery because they didn't take any action towards the crime. On the other hand, in State v. Lammersthe, a person who bought an assault rifle and practiced shooting with it was found guilty of attempted first degree assault because this was a substantial step towards committing the crime.

Attempts can be completed or incomplete. It's important to remember that even if someone doesn't finish a crime, they can still be held accountable for trying to commit it.

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NosyBeagle
16:59
If you spend a couple months studying, take the test like summer/early fall then you could totally get a good score and dominate ur apps
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
17:00
As a young potential KJD applicant, there is absolutely no rush and potentially everything to gain by getting work (and life) experience for a year or three
AngryMiniCar
17:00
^^ mmhm
thank you guys!! and no i don't mind the gap year i just want to make sure i'm fully prepared
AngryMiniCar
17:01
Especially cause a good amount of your competition is gonna have at least 1 year of work experience ahead of you.
AngryMiniCar
17:01
Yesss take the gap
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
17:01
Unless you have like a 4.3 CAS GPA and crazy softs (softs are the non-quantifiable elements in your application that set you apart from others with similar stats)
AngryMiniCar
17:01
^^
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
17:02
But even so, enjoy being young, trying something you won't have time to try once you're a law student/lawyer
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
17:03
And that thing will make your application sparkle
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
17:03
It will also make you sparkle (hopefully!)
NosyBeagle
17:03
take it from me: don't rush to take the lsat while you're trying to finish school you're gonna get a poopy score, and have to try again later anyways so be smart and take a load off. you got this
well unfortunately my gpa is sitting at a 3.5 or so because i did get a c in calc when i was 15... but i did see retaking classes doesnt affect the lsac gpa but again thank you guys!! luckily these two semesters aren't too bad for me but hopefully i can find something aligned with my interests to help me w that
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
17:06
What was it like starting college at... 15?
AngryMiniCar
17:07
15????
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
17:07
I mean I'm just doing the math (I think)
NosyBeagle
17:07
a 3.5 is still good.
NosyBeagle
17:07
also don't go on r/lawschooladmissions cus they're gonna tell you to die pretty much
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
17:09
What are your career goals? Why do you want to be a lawyer? Asking both because you'll need to get clear on that for your admissions essays and because I'm super curious lol
NosyBeagle
17:10
^^
So I did dual enrollment and summer classes for my paralegal cert (that I haven’t finished) and not ACTUALLY started college. I barely graduated hs last year actually! But I wanted to originally work gov because I did get sexually assaulted as a child and recently had trial 3 weeks ago (after the case became a 3-4 year ordeal) and he was actually acquitted of all charges UNFORTUNATELY but that kinda inspired me when I was younger
NosyBeagle
17:13
I'm so sorry to hear that ): I think you'd be a strong advocate for kids.
And I do know im going to get paid peanuts as some may put it so if im in debt maybe ill do whatever, and i do know corporate is a stretch but i have been working since i was 14 so i feel like id be able to handle the workload of that… and just do pro bono cases if i dont want to be “poor” for long
And thank you! It definitely hasn’t been easy and I have been trying to be more vocal about that recently especially on social media and getting my story out
NosyBeagle
17:22
Yes I defintely think you deserve a BREAK and hopefully you do too. You've been through so much. Also u can totally minimize ur debt with saving a buttload of money. but it is ok. all of us are gonna be in the hole for awhile
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
18:03
I'm sorry that happened to you! Definitely agree with the above, you definitely deserve a break. Hopefully you can find something that pays bills and gives you some peace and enjoyment, then jump into law school grounded and rested. (Sorry for the slow reply, hope you see it)
ParallelAgreeableOrangutan
18:06
We are rooting for you
Bettercaulsaul
21:46
Minor set back for a major comeback you got this
23:20
@ParallelAgreeableOrangutan: I appreciate u always hyping everyone up and being a stand up person/giving good advice on here, bravo
23:21
@GratefulSpecialSloth: things can change fast, aim for small incremental improvements each day and you will get where you need to be! Rooting for you as well!
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