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Seiler v. Lucasfilm Ltd. (1986)

United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit - 808 F.2d 1316

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A man claimed that the maker of a famous movie copied his creatures, but he couldn't prove that they existed before the movie was made.

ICRA

Issue

The issue is whether the plaintiff has sufficient evidence to support his copyright claim.

Conclusion

The conclusion is that the lower court's decision to deny Seiler's copyright claim was not erroneous, and 17 U.S.C. § 410(c) of the Copyright Act does not mandate the admission of Seiler's secondary evidence in this case.

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Rule

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Analysis

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Brief Facts & Holding

Facts

  • Lee Seiler is claiming that George Lucas copied his science fiction creatures called Garthian Striders in the creation of the Imperial Walkers in the movie "The Empire Strikes Back".
  • Seiler failed to produce any originals or documentary evidence that his creatures existed before the movie's release in 1980.
  • The district judge found that Seiler had lost or destroyed the originals in bad faith and denied admissibility of any secondary evidence.
  • Seiler argues on appeal that the best evidence rule does not apply to his works, or alternatively, that a jury should determine the existence and authenticity of his originals under Rule 1008.
  • Seiler also contends that 17 U.S.C. § 410(c) of the copyright laws overrides the Federal Rules of Evidence and mandates admission of his secondary evidence.

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Holding

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  • A named property within the court's jurisdiction is attached to satisfy an unrelated claim, despite the owner of said property being a non-resident of the state.
  • A named property within the court's jurisdiction is attached as the basis for the suit (e.g., to quiet title), despite the owner of said property being a non-resident of the state.
  • An individual is sued who is a resident of the state, or who has been served with process while physically located within the state.
  • jurisdiction - Neff is neither a resident, nor was served while within the state. Service by publication may be valid for an
  • proceeding, where the owner would be made aware of the suit due to their property being seized, but not for
  • jurisdiction - the action was on the basis of a suit to receive payment owed, and did not relate directly to a property within the state.
  • jurisdiction, as the Oregon property was not attached to the initial suit, but rather was added in after the suit happened - note that Neff did not even purchase the property until after the suit had concluded.
  • Accordingly, the Oregon court did not have jurisdiction over the initial suit between Neff and his lawyer.
  • Enforcement of a judgment without jurisdiction denies due process!
  • Additionally, although judgments rendered by other states are entitled to full faith and credit, if that state did not have jurisdiction to render the judgment, it loses such entitlement.
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