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Oregon v. Elstad (1985)

Supreme Court of the United States - 470 U.S. 298, 84 L. Ed. 2d 222, 105 S. Ct. 1285, 1985 U.S. LEXIS 60, SCDB 1984-041

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Police talked to a suspect without notifying him of his rights. Later, after being informed of his rights, he confessed. Is his confession valid?

ICRA

Issue

In summary, the issue is whether a suspect's confession is still valid if the police failed to give them their rights initially.

Conclusion

The legal conclusion of the court is that if a suspect is given their Miranda rights and waives them, then any subsequent confession they make can be used in court, even if the police did not give the warnings at first.

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Rule

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Analysis

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Brief Facts & Holding

Facts

  • The case is about whether a confession made by a suspect is admissible in court if the police did not give them Miranda warnings at the beginning of the interrogation.
  • The Supreme Court said that if the suspect is informed of their rights and waives them, then their confession can be used in court, even if they were not initially given the Miranda warnings.
  • The Court of Appeals said that it depends on how much time went by and if the police did anything to pressure the suspect into confessing.
  • The State admitted that the police officer did not give the Miranda warnings at first, but they did not use the initial confession to pressure the suspect.

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Holding

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  • A named property within the court's jurisdiction is attached to satisfy an unrelated claim, despite the owner of said property being a non-resident of the state.
  • A named property within the court's jurisdiction is attached as the basis for the suit (e.g., to quiet title), despite the owner of said property being a non-resident of the state.
  • An individual is sued who is a resident of the state, or who has been served with process while physically located within the state.
  • jurisdiction - Neff is neither a resident, nor was served while within the state. Service by publication may be valid for an
  • proceeding, where the owner would be made aware of the suit due to their property being seized, but not for
  • jurisdiction - the action was on the basis of a suit to receive payment owed, and did not relate directly to a property within the state.
  • jurisdiction, as the Oregon property was not attached to the initial suit, but rather was added in after the suit happened - note that Neff did not even purchase the property until after the suit had concluded.
  • Accordingly, the Oregon court did not have jurisdiction over the initial suit between Neff and his lawyer.
  • Enforcement of a judgment without jurisdiction denies due process!
  • Additionally, although judgments rendered by other states are entitled to full faith and credit, if that state did not have jurisdiction to render the judgment, it loses such entitlement.
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Majority opinion by Justice O’Connor
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Dissenting opinion by Justice Brennan
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Dissenting opinion by Justice Stevens
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