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Immortal-Jellyfish
Class of 2026
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2022-2023
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Ijustwannagetinman
20:54
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Ijustwannagetinman
20:54
Im not in state though
MightyUnableSphinx
21:04
i wonder how much being in state plays in your favor
MightyUnableSphinx
21:04
i'm an california in state splitter so if I get ucla and ucb then probably it is in your favor a good amt
Ijustwannagetinman
21:09
Being in state probably helps
Ijustwannagetinman
21:09
But will they please let me in😭😭😭😭
21:12
UC Berkeley and UCLA both state on their websites that in-state status does not factor into their decisions
21:13
"Do in-state applicants have higher preference than those from out of state?" "You have an equivalent chance of being admitted regardless of your residency." https://www.law.berkeley.edu/admissions/jd/applying-for-jd-degree/faqs/#bb12-do-in-state-applicants-have-higher-preference-than-those-from-out-of-state-0
21:14
"Is preference given to California residents?" "Not at all. Although we receive the largest proportion of applications from California, we seek to admit and enroll a geographically diverse class each year. Admission decisions are not based on quotas, and the goal of the Law School Admissions Committee is to admit the most compelling and talented candidates into UCLA Law." https://law.ucla.edu/admissions/jd-admissions/frequently-asked-questions#:~:text=Our%20general%20advice%20is%20to,geographically%20diverse%20class%20each%20year.
21:14
Contrast with, for instance, UVA: "Although Virginia Law is not dependent upon the Commonwealth for its budget, we do give extra consideration to Virginia residents during the admissions process." https://www.law.virginia.edu/admissions/admissions/jd-admissions/faqs
21:19
To be very practical about the institutional interests in play, UC Berkeley and UCLA both get plenty of competitive applicants from CA and both want to have national reach and nationally competitive stats/rankings (which *disincentivizes* a strong preference for CA applicants)
21:20
More successfully in Berkeley's case, 64% of UCLA's class were California residents last fall
KnowledgeableRitzyWasp
21:20
Jb I would pay to catalogue all of your information and make it into a FAQ for this site
Ijustwannagetinman
21:23
I wonder if that’s true though bc it seems like in state applicants have lower stats
Ijustwannagetinman
21:24
And they get decisions faster
21:26
They def give preference to in state apps
21:26
They’re both two of the most vibe/fit based schools. Naturally they prefer people more likely to matriculate
21:32
@KnowledgeableRitzyWasp: If the admins want to give me a blank canvas somewhere besides shoehorning ten pages into the wisdom section, I'll do it to kill time
21:39
I suspect a bunch of stuff related to in-state status helps. For example, Berkeley/UCLA undergrads will be able to articulate an interest in Berkeley/UCLA more specifically and authentically than most, their coursework and recommenders will be familiar to the committee, etc. CA residents might have any number of legal interests tied to the area as well as Cal/UCLA's offerings. But that's different from an in-state preference as most people use the term.
21:41
They both have yield rates in the 20s, I think their emphasis on fit is a bit overstated given they don't know which 1/4 of admits they'll have on campus until mid-April
21:44
In theory they could backfill that from the waitlist as every school does, but Berkeley takes 2-3 people a year off the waitlist. They clearly aren't that attached to a specific mix of students (though self-selection alone keeps them super liberal and means plenty of CA representation)
21:48
If nothing else, Berkeley and UCLA have every incentive to be hones here. The UC system gets plenty of flak for enrolling too many out-of-state students, so any grad school that gives in-state applicants a boost could dodge a lot of political heat by saying so
Ijustwannagetinman
21:48
I wrote in my two LOCIs that I would withdraw all other apps and acceptances if I got in:( and wrote about a few specific programs and why my overall legal goals mesh with LA and UCLA’s free speech focus
21:48
*honest
Ijustwannagetinman
21:50
@HorseyMed: what do you think my odds of getting off the waitlist are 😭
Ijustwannagetinman
21:50
I have to imagine I’m somewhat of a strong candidate
Ijustwannagetinman
21:50
I would’ve thought they would like someone with my undergrad experience
QuixoticPowerfulAlligator
21:50
should I send an update if the paper I worked on while I worked in a research lab in undergrad finally is submitting the paper and im a co author. it was a biology lab
QuixoticPowerfulAlligator
21:51
it was like 2 years ago that I worked on it
QuixoticPowerfulAlligator
21:53
or like is it not that deep and not send it
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