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DecisiveMaterialOyster

Class of 2026

First choice school:

3.88/4.3

GPA

161/180

LSAT

User stats

Softs

T4

URM

Work

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Goal

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Apps submitted

0

Scholarships Received

$0

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School apps

Rank	2022-2023	Result	App type	FW	Resident	Schol...	Sent	Sent raw	Received	Received raw	Complete	Complete raw	UR	UR raw	UR2	UR2 raw	II	II raw	Decision	Decision raw
73	American University	WL, Accepted	Unknown																May 17	2023-05-17
37	Boston College	Waitlisted	Unknown																Apr 13	2023-04-13
98	Brooklyn Law School	Accepted	Unknown			$144,000													Apr 28	2023-04-28
118	Chapman University	Accepted	Unknown			$180,000
4	Columbia University	Rejected	Unknown																Apr 24	2023-04-24
67	Loyola Marymount Uni...	Accepted	Unknown																Apr 26	2023-04-26
7	New York University	Rejected	Unknown				Feb 11	2023-02-11	Mar 09	2023-03-09
52	Pepperdine University	Accepted	Unknown			$60,000
116	Seattle University	Accepted	Unknown			$80,000
84	St. John's University	Accepted	Unknown			$75,000
51	UCalifornia (Hastings)	Accepted	Unknown			$45,000
9	UCBerkeley	Rejected	Unknown																Apr 10	2023-04-10
37	UCDavis	Waitlisted	Unknown
15	UCLos Angeles	Rejected	Unknown
20	USouthern California	Rejected	Unknown																Apr 28	2023-04-28
17	UTexas at Austin	Waitlisted	Unknown
43	UWisconsin	Waitlisted	Unknown
52	Yeshiva University (...	Accepted	Unknown			$90,000													Apr 26	2023-04-26

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General

General chat about the legal profession.

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WayTooOldForSchool

12:37

Understood, thanks! Having said that, I’m still going to be trying for it. I think I would have plenty of career options if academia didn’t work out, but I would love to be able to transfer to the “top of the top” and keeping the academia option open. Question is which would be better for that: BU or ND?

GustyOssifiedMammoth

12:49

has anyone who applied in april heard back?

GargantuanWhalicMammal

12:49

probably equal but id feel better at ND

VengefulDazzlingPegasus

12:49

BU and ND are peer schools, so I'm not sure it matters that much. My gut says BU, just because it is in the same geographic region as many of the schools that prepare you for academia.

2E2EDDBBTT

12:53

guys

WayTooOldForSchool

12:57

Thanks so much, everybody! I have a friend who is a professor at ND Law, so will get his perspective later today as well. I think the two schools are pretty equal as well, and I have good connections with both geographies/schools, so this is a tough decision. But thanks for your two cents!

sloppysteaks

13:00

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TpBGlyowE3dDKleBEaqyFl54iDDJNwddCjv5MM6d4Eg/edit#gid=0

sloppysteaks

13:00

^ @waytoooldforschool

sloppysteaks

13:01

about 50% come from HYS

sloppysteaks

13:01

80% from the top 14

2E2EDDBBTT

14:50

toad

2E2EDDBBTT

14:50

sls?

2E2EDDBBTT

14:50

uchi?

VengefulDazzlingPegasus

15:00

I found going into academia from Columbia to be pretty easy.

VengefulDazzlingPegasus

15:02

But I had practice experience first, too.

JG770

16:52

Should I schedule a meeting with admissions for a school I'm WL at to update them on my GPA/Completion of degree, or just send an email?

[] cryptanon

17:20

Just send an email

JG770

17:48

Thanks!

Wistfulthinking

22:16

@WayTooOldForSchool: retake the lsat if you can

Wistfulthinking

22:16

Considering you got waitlisted with a 163 you would likely get full rides with 170+

Highierheadproductions

23:24

Write a complaint for defamation of character, pareental alienation, abuse of the court process.

Highierheadproductions

23:25

Colorado jefferson county court corruption

Wistfulthinking

10:08

Can a splitter (3.4/177) get into Stanford or Harvard? Or full ride at other t14?

VengefulDazzlingPegasus

11:08

Harvard and Stanford are unlikely, but two over the past several years have gotten into Harvard off the waitlist, so you might as well try. Even getting into a T14 is not guaranteed. But, historically, folks with your stats have had a decent shot (like 50/50) at places like Penn, UVA, Michigan, Northwestern, and Georgetown. And, many of those folks who were accepted received a decent scholarship. but, only a very small number got a full ride. I think it really depends on your softs for that. And, in any case, I would apply to places like UCLA, WashU, BU, GW, Fordham, and Emory if you want to be sure that you'll have an acceptance, especially if you are shooting for a full ride. The more you apply to, the better your chance that one will send a full ride your way.

OptimalTenderCucumber

11:15

What if the 3.4 is because of severe adversity and paired with rare softs

OptimalTenderCucumber

11:15

Or 3.5 in my case

VengefulDazzlingPegasus

11:23

Well, I'm just looking at past data: https://www.lsd.law/search/2Dsxe

VengefulDazzlingPegasus

11:26

Presumably, some of those people wrote GPA addenda discussing adversity, or had rare softs (you can look at individual users to see how they rated their own softs), but the data will never be able to tell us the likelihood of any individual case. But, yes, having rare softs or having overcome adversity matters, as does work experience. I received a full ride from a T14 with a 176/3.6, and I'm guessing my softs/background mattered.

2E2EDDBBTT

16:34

Why LDS has not updated ranking?!

VengefulDazzlingPegasus

20:26

Because the rankings this year were even sillier than usual?

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